observer Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The Abu Qatada farce perhaps provides the best arguement for ignoring the ECHR and just just deporting all foreign criminal suspects back to their home Countries - we can always do an "ooops sorry" afterwards - and save the taxpayer a load of cash too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Bloody Hell! What's happening to me? I'm actually in agreement with observer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Tends to happen when you play the ball, rather than the man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 This was one of Call me Dave's pledges which he has gone back on. The man is a waste of a PM's salary :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Teresa MAY sort it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I agree that we should just put him on a plane but disagree that it would save taxpayers cash. There would be some enormous fine from Europe - and of course, we're British and law abiding (almost sadly) and don't do that kind of thing. Â Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 a bullet from the SAS would be a heck of a lot cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Careful Baz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 a bullet from the SAS would be a heck of a lot cheaper  Either that or a quiet word with the man who knows a man who can put you in touch with a man who for a small fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Either that or a quiet word with the man who knows a man who can put you in touch with a man who for a small fee  no.... that only applies when you want planning permission to build on green belt land!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 All courts make stupid decisions - does not mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater* Â Â Â Â Â Â * Now that would definitley be abusing the baby's rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 He aint no baby though! He's an ugly looking dangerous bugger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 This isn't just "all courts" Nick, it's a European Court, more ansorbed with the letter of the HR Act to the exclusion of common sense and the security and sovereignty of individual States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Definitely playing devil's advocate, isn't it better to keep him in this country at great financial cost and under supervision, than deport him to somewhere he can plan his wickedness in peace.? Â Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Harry, my old stocking top, he can plan just as well in Uk as he could do in Timbuctu! He aint gonna be living the life of a saint just because he's living in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Cleo, His conditions of freedom seem very strict if what I have read is true. Â Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 He's wanted for multiple terrorist offences in his home country of Jordan - offences which he has admitted to many times. If we stick two fingers up at Brussels and just send him back there he won't be causing ANYONE a problem for very long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 How is it that we can't send these people back to their own country for fear of an unfair trial or torture, yet we quite happily send "our" countrymen to America when they demand it as in the case of the "hacking" cases? They aren't exactly going to be treated fairly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's all very simple Peter, the lunatics are in charge. There can be no other explanation for the ongoing madness we read about every day. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Basically the PC liberal luvvies have now occupied every facet of power throughout Europe, where they try to deal with a world as they would like it to be, rather than dealing with it as it is - hopefully, they'll eventually be a backlash to this insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 hopefully, they'll eventually be a backlash to this insanity. Â we tried...... but they introduced the 20mph limits anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 that remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Basically the PC liberal luvvies have now occupied every facet of power throughout Europe, where they try to deal with a world as they would like it to be, rather than dealing with it as it is - hopefully, they'll eventually be a backlash to this insanity. Â Â I find this to be puzzling when I see your posts on the Primark thread. truly you are an enigma wrapped in a puzzle Obs :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Think it's about National interest Asp: it's in our national interest to deport would be terrorists back to their own Country, just as it is in our national interest to safeguard British jobs against cheap imports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 But you aren't dealing with the world as it actually is Obs. You are living in the past. Brittania no longer rules the waves, we are a financial powerhouse but not a political one. Buy British if you want, but it won't make a jot of difference to the way things are. Reality is a hard pill to swallow, especially if you are set in your ways. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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