Dizzy Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well local schools and colleges closed early today due to the severe weather warning Just looked on the met office web site and doesn't seem to bad for round here so what's the panic and not much going on outside at the moment Over cautious maybe due to last times nightmare..... or will I be eating my own words later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Battened down the hatches? I've done better than that, I've left my ship on the Humber (in the safe hands of the brave Captain Cornelius) and come home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well done you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Andrews is good for a bit of wind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I've just driven back from Leeds this evening and it's been seriously blowy especially across the high parts of the M62 and in the Shipley area there were several road closures due to fallen trees. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Serious gusting at the moment, there are some big old Scots pines at the end of the lane and their tops are really bending in the gale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 I was just about to post that it seemed to have missed us... until I went out to my car that is. Flippin' heck it's a bit breezy eh.... Aren't dark nights and double glazing wonderful... we can't hear or see a thing from inside Don't recon the piles of states and ridge tiles that are piled up one of the neighbours roofs will stay there for long though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Forecast for Warrington is only force 6 overnight but I suspect we've been getting stronger gusts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Just a final word before I got to bed, these not too bad winds topped just over 100mph not that far from here and have just blown me bloomin garden fence down. Dizzy, shut up! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 My lips are now sealed Bill... should I tape my fingers together too just to make sure I wont mention anything about where our cars are parked either in relation the the things on the roof Enjoy fixing your fence tomorrow Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Forecast for Warrington is only force 6 overnight but I suspect we've been getting stronger gusts. Just looked up force 6 Vic and the description is Force 6 - Strong breeze 25?30 mph Long waves begin to form. White foam crests are very frequent. Some airborne spray is present. wave height 9?13 ft Large branches in motion. Whistling heard in overhead wires. Umbrella use becomes difficult. Empty plastic garbage cans tip over. Bill if the speeds have hit 100 mph like you say then that means it's hurricane force Hurricane-force ≥ 73 mph Huge waves. Sea is completely white with foam and spray. Air is filled with driving spray, greatly reducing visibility. wave height ≥ 46 ft Very widespread damage to vegetation. Some windows may break; mobile homes and poorly constructed sheds and barns are damaged. Debris may be hurled about. I think Vic is closer to the mark there but like he says maybe a bit stronger than a 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 You are correct Dizzy, but when they forecast and report the wind force they are taking the average, but you can get damaging gusts several knots higher than the mean. So with a gale force wind of average 35 knots you can get gusts twice that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Hey Asp, we do mph on land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Well I understood what Asp was saying Peter Thanks Asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Why do the gales come on the day the bins have been emptied? Tree down on the A574 near the Raven and our cold frame is next door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Note the date, for your insurance claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hey Asp, we do mph on land. The Beaufort Scale of wind speeds was thought up by Admiral Beaufort who, being a seaman, used knots rather than mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 well it is still a tad blowy this morning. not quite as bad as last night though. at one point thought i was in one of those silly horror films, wind whistling through the phone lines and a herd of wheely bins wandering down the road like demented dalek wannabes not noted any trees down on sankey valley yet but only went a short walk with the dog this morning. might have a wander over the other side later and see if i can grab a bit of firewood for the woodburning stove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hey Asp, we do mph on land. The Beaufort Scale of wind speeds was thought up by Admiral Beaufort who, being a seaman, used knots rather than mph. That's no excuse. If you want the landlubbers to understand, you have to simplify the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 We've got little bits of brick covering our back yard today... presume they must have blown of the chimney stacks At least no full ones blew down eh Neighbours piles of tiles on the roof didn't move.... now that has suprised and pleased me So all in all not too bad eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 All About Knots The 'Chip Log' apparatus consisted of a small weighted wood panel that was attached to the reel of rope, and a time measuring device: a half-minute sand glass,the Chip Log Rope had knots tied at equal distances along the reel. Sailors would throw the wood panel into the sea, behind the ship, and the rope would start unwinding from the reel. The faster the ship was moving forward the faster the rope would unwind. By counting the number of knots that went overboard in a given time interval, measured by the sand glass, they could tell the ship's speed. In fact that is the origin of the nautical speed unit: the knot. 1 knots = 1.15077945 mph Conversion table for knots to miles per hour 5 Knots = 5.8MPH 10 Knots = 11.5MPH 15 Knots = 17.3MPH 20 Knots = 23.0MPH 25 Knots = 28.8MPH 30 Knots = 34.6MPH 35 Knots = 40.3MPH 40 Knots = 46.1MPH 45 Knots = 51.8MPH 50 Knots = 57.6MPH 55 Knots =63.4MPH 60 Knots = 69.1MPH 65Knots = 74.9MPH 70Knots = 80.6MPH 75Knots = 86.4MPH 80Knots = 92.2MPH 85Knots = 97.9MPH 90Knots = 103.7MPH 95Knots = 109.4MPH 100Knots = 115.2MPH 105Knots = 121.0MPH 110Knots = 126.7MPH 115Knots = 132.5MPH 120Knots = 138.2MPH 125Knots = 144.0MPH 130Knots = 149.8MPH 135Knots = 155.5MPH 140Knots = 161.3MPH 145Knots = 167.0MPH 150Knots = 172.8MPH Beaufort Wind Scale Windspeed in MPH Visible Condition 0 Calm smoke rises vertically 1 - 4 Light air direction of wind shown by smoke but not by wind vanes 4 - 7 Light breeze wind felt on face; leaves rustle; ordinary wind vane moved by wind 8 - 12 Gentle breeze leaves and small twigs in constant motion; wind extends light flag 13 - 18 Moderate breeze raises dust and loose paper; small branches are moved 19 - 24 Fresh breeze small trees in leaf begin to sway; crested wavelets form on inland water 25 - 31 Strong breeze large branches in motion; telephone wires whistle; umbrellas used with difficulty 32 - 38 Moderate gale whole trees in motion; inconvenience in walking against wind 39 - 46 Fresh gale breaks twigs off trees; generally impedes progress 47 - 54 Strong gale slight structural damage occurs; chimney pots and slates removed 55 - 63 Whole gale trees uprooted; considerable structural damage occurs 64 - 72 Storm very rarely experienced; accompanied by widespread damage 73+ Hurricane devastation occurs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Very good Algy, I'm impressed by your investigative powers. A nautical mile is longer than a land (statute) mile by a variable amount depending on where you are on the globe. This is because the nautical mile is equal to the arc subtended on the earth's surface from the centre of the earth by 1 minute of latitude. If the earth were a perfect sphere then a nautical mile would be the same wherever you are on earth. Sorry but it isn't, it's an oblate spheroid. For practical purposes a nautical mile is taken to be 6080 feet compared to a land mile which, as every one knows, is 5280 feet, about 15% less. Does that help you land lubbers Peter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Just think if it hadn't been windy I (and others) wouldn't have learnt something new Thanks Asp and Algy 'twas very informative and most interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Easy way to convert from knots to miles per hour. 1 knot is 1.15 mph. In other words to convert from knots to mph, take the number of knots, add 10% (you can do that in your head no problem), then add another 5% (half of the 10% you just worked out). Simples! A similar trick works for VAT at 15%, 17.5% or 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Never knew they had started charging VAT on wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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