Peter T Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Had reason to go to the library this morning. And also walked along Sankey St. to the Mall with her indoors. My question is, WHY are the pavements in the centre of town not clear of snow and ice? Can a person who has mobility difficulties claim off the council for any injuries incurred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 worth a try but the excuse will probably be that they could not spare any grit as they need it to keep the main roads open so that ambulances can get to the people who slip and fall on the ungritted pavements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bit of a tricky one as most pavements everywhere are covered in ice and rather treacherous at present as are some of the untreated roads which have still not thawed out. With temperatures expected to be as low as -5 again tonight there is more to come Would imagine though if the council gritted some pavements then they would be then expected to grit them all which obviously they cant. My other half was rather suprised and shocked to find himself and the dog sliding along the pathway yesterday tea time which leads to Stockton Heath Medical Centre from the the council owned Forge Shopping Centre car park (which had been gritted by the way ). I believe a lady broke her ankle as she fell on the very same pathway earlier in the day Ouch Suppose if you are going to fall it's better if you do it outside a doctors surgery though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Buy a box of salt Peter and then shake it out in the spots you need to walk - it really works. I am thinking that the Health and Safety people would say that they cannot keep it clear - blah blah blah. That's what ours did up north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 I was happily trying to clear the pavement outside my house yesterday and I was also sprinkling salt (it made a lovely crackling noise as it hit the frozen ridges) but I was advised by an interested party to STOP. He said that if someone fell and injured themselves on the part of the 'public highway' that I had tried to treat myself I could be held responsible and sued I spilt a bit more salt then hastily retreated Is what he said right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dismayed, I have heard that one before. I have no idea whether it is true or not. I still clear it away. WHY should anyone fall where there is no snow or ice. Perhaps they salted the Forge car park "AFTER" the lady had her accident. Mary, Good idea but I covered a lot of ground and wouldn't have been able to carry it. Couild have got Jane to carry it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Diz is correct - yet another example of the lack of common sense in our common laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Dismayed, I have heard that one before. I have no idea whether it is true or not.I still clear it away. WHY should anyone fall where there is no snow or ice.: Thats what I thought but maybe it's the fact that I would be lulling someone into a false sense of security by making one area safe whilst the next step would be treacherous ... Perhaps they salted the Forge car park "AFTER" the lady had her accident. Why after ?? She didn't fall on the forge car park she fell on the slippery pavement near the doctors surgery Anyway council owned car parks are always gritted even you should know that PS be carefull if you go out it's freezing hard already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Thats what I thought but maybe it's the fact that I would be lulling someone into a false sense of security by making one area safe whilst the next step would be treacherous ... Probably the line a good solicitor would take. Still a stupid idea. Isn't anyone responsible anymopre? Perhaps they salted the Forge car park "AFTER" the lady had her accident. Ok. Anyway council owned car parks are always gritted even you should know that WHY would I know that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Perhaps an emergency issue of zimmers could help?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevofaz25 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Witnessed the council workers in town today throwing grit onto the pavements from the back of a moving lorry- looked highly risky and also reminded me of the Chuckle Brothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENT-A-GOAT Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Witnessed the council workers in town today throwing grit onto the pavements from the back of a moving lorry- looked highly risky and also reminded me of the Chuckle Brothers One doing the work and several others supervising no doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 well our roads and pavements are well and truly iced over round here. great for those who have ice skating experience, not so great it you haven't. that bad even my dog was slipping over yesterday and he has four legs, what chance have i got with only two heard a loud beeping as well and looked out to see the guys that clean the grids trying to get the wagon turned round without hitting any of the parked cars in the street. strange that we never seem to see those guys when it is pouring with rain and the grids are overflowing. can't wait for thursday, bin day round here and should be very interesting to see how they cope with the ice rink that is our road. that struggle at the best of times to reverse down the back alley, will have to fire the video up may get a few bob from Harry Hill when they slide into somebody's back yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 BIN DAY???? Lucky you, because we have ours collected on a Friday we don't get our next collection until the New Year now! (we can however put bin bags out, which funnily enough they can't possibly move at any other time of the year!") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Olga from the Volga is dossing down at me Mams house over Christmas. She is one of them big Russian tractor driving wenches, who has been flown in to keep the runways clear at the airports. You should see her having a snow baff in the back yard in her fong and stuff. Any bin men looking for a Christmas box, will be well advised not to bother at me Mams house I can tell yer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Olga from the Volga is dossing down at me Mams house over Christmas. She is one of them big Russian tractor driving wenches, who has been flown in to keep the runways clear at the airports. You should see her having a snow baff in the back yard in her fong and stuff. Any bin men looking for a Christmas box, will be well advised not to bother at me Mams house I can tell yer. Well, you two-timing louse! I am right glad I went bivvy wenching with Big Ron and Haddock now. They know how to treat a lady proper - said 'scuse after every windy blast in that tent, they did. Even went outside to wee at night so as not to splash my sleeping bag and Haddock didn't complain when he froze his tackle to that wire fence. You see if that Siberian slapper does as good a job with your flies as I would have - tell you now, she'll not do a sausage surprise like mine after a day at the rods! If your mam wasn't such a lady, I'd come round there and tell you in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 why is that wing can't find yer boxing gluvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 I can remember major whinging last year at this time about no snow for Christmas - with snow comes ice. Wonder how bad it is in Germany - Steve are you around?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Seems Councils are to blame for folk slipping over on ice, and in some cases killing themselves. Given the apparent inabilty for some folk to assess the risk of walking on ice, the Council are supposed to come along and tape off such areas of risk. Seems nothing is now ever your own fault, it's always someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 May be relevant. a man slipped and died on Xmas day in Urmston cemetery (reported yesterday). We had a wreath to take to the same cemetery and after putting it off for a few days, were going on boxing day until I decided that it would be too dangerous. Were the cemetery officials at fault or the man who took the risk? Not everywhere can be gritted. Accidents just happen. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 May be relevant. a man slipped and died on Xmas day in Urmston cemetery (reported yesterday).We had a wreath to take to the same cemetery and after putting it off for a few days, were going on boxing day until I decided that it would be too dangerous. Were the cemetery officials at fault or the man who took the risk? Not everywhere can be gritted. Accidents just happen. Happy days Thing is Harry, the deceased would not have known it was icy in the cemetary until he got there..... He may have slipped whilst turning round after deciding it was too dangerous!! Who knows!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Shouldn't the individual be responsible for the decision? This is becoming more common. People (and I blame Governments) are being led down a path whereby officialdom makes all the decisions. In 50 years time everyone will be a zombie, Not just the odd few that we have at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 'led down a path' !?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Only an "odd few" at the moment?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 You can't say 1 in every 5, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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