Gary Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Which do you prefer OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 WHY the need to change it? and at what cost? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Thanks for taking up the idea of a poll Gary. Further to the headlines, Fiona Bruce did in fact vote for a debate on the matter and therefore voted with Labour. I suspect Mayor Dirir has found her "Jim Hacker Cause", those of you who saw "Yes Minister" will know the episode I mean. I voted for the Coat of Arms as I rather like such things, interestingly the logo is based on the Goddess Nike, and I can sometimes see the merits of new emblems but maybe not for a Council......just yet anyway PS I was lousy at it if truth be known though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBain Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 New logo is streets ahead of the crusty old logo - get it adopted immediately. As for a "debate" on the issue, is that really what the Council members should be wasting valuable time on??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 See the tv debate on www.warrington.tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 God gives little by little? Keep the coat of arms I say, changing to a modern logo is a waste of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinsider Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 New logo is very smart. Keep the crest for civic and use the new logo for everything else. It has been designed in house, all the work has been done - lets move with the times. Very litttle in the way of cost implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Is this the height of political debate in this Town? Who cares?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinsider Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I think your old friends have scored another own goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMac Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I have absolutely no problem with modernity, rebranding and moving with the times. The new logo looks a bit cheap, rather meaningless and resembles various other meaningless swoopy logos that other companies use. I'd have stuck with the coat of arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 The coat of arms should stay ....... another excuse for this council to get rid of as much of the town's history as possible again who's making the 'backhanders' out of this ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 The coat of arms has been ammended over the years, and the history is a matter of public record for those who care to study such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Actually the council crest as it is now was only introduced in 1974 during local government re-organisation - so it isn't as historic as some people may think. I wonder how much consultation took place in 1974? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Very true Gary, but, it's the amalgamation of the various crests/armorials and what it stands for that matters from the earliest de Villers, through to Boteler, Cheshire & Lancashire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Which is why it is being retained for civic and historic purposes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I agree with Jimmy Mac. At least the coat of arms stands out whereas the new logo just becomes another bit of trivia, or does that resemble the council? Whatever the cost, at a time when the council should be saving money, and the Lib-Dems are bleating about cost savings, the money involved should be spent on something useful. It must add up to a few thousand ?????'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 pennies compared to the pounds spent on the skittles and other white elephants in the past; plus all the foreign jollies for Councillors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I dunno. The crest at least implies something about authority where as the new logo just looks like something from a free logo download webite. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I think the council is at least trying to move with the times. I wonder how much it will cost to put it on all council property and other such items that carry the logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I think you make a good point Bill. With regards to cost, I understand the new logo would be introduced on an as and when basis, thereby not incurring additional costs. Maybe the new logo should be the "skittles"....then again maybe not, it's just a reminder of waste. Of course why have a logo or crest at all. But of course as I implied in one of my earlier posts, maybe all this has more to do with May 3rd or even something a little deeper than that, I will say no more but time will tell I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMac Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Originally posted by Paul Kennedy: Maybe the new logo should be the "skittles"....then again maybe not, it's just a reminder of waste. Actually - whilst I know you were joking, that is a very good suggestion. You should go into logo design perhaps! Like them or not [and I am in the former category] they are quite a landmark in Warrington, and many people who visit notice them and comment favourably. A stylised sillhouette of a whole [or partial] skittle would be distinctive and actually tie into the local area in some way. Unfortunately, it seems the gate has been jumped after the logo has bolted the gun. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyMac Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Originally posted by Matty: I wonder how much it will cost to put it on all council property and other such items that carry the logo. Slightly off-topic, I sometimes wonder how much it cost Trafford MBC to paint all the street furniture black with gold hoops. If the new logo is used when things require repainting/repairing anyway, then the cost implementing a new logo does not have to be that huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Change for change's sake. As Observer says, surely there are more pressing things for the council to discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Originally posted by JimmyMac: that is a very good suggestion. You should go into logo design perhaps! I am not worthy of your generous comment, come May 4th it might have to be an option I will need to consider though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMorgan Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I feel that this new logo is a great thing to come from the council; it is new, fresh and shows that Warrington is a town that embraces change. If you look at local authorities up and down the country, they are changing there logo's away from crests to more modern logo's, this has been the case for example in Salford, Bolton, Wigan and soon Cheshire. The crest is not being completely scrapped; it is being retained for civic purposes such as the mayors? office and civic visits. It will also remain on the new Warrington Borough Transport livery, as the logo was kept on the buses to show the connection to the council. Cost will also be kept down as has already been mentioned, by phasing the new logo in by only when something with the old logo needs replacing. Also a well done has to go to the graphics department at WBC, as getting this done from an outside companies could have cost hundreds of thousands of pounds, when WBC have produced a high quality, futuristic logo on a shoe-string budget. Well Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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