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What on earth is going on round here at the moment.

 

Earlier in the week there were two women stabbed on the Runcorn Bridge and a third woman stabbed at her home in Runcorn according to the local radio and tv news..... and now this :shock::(

 

No effective deterrent for murder is the simple answer Dis. When you see the likes of that woman who worked for Fergie absconding from an OPEN prison only 8 years after being convicted of murder, you can see that the country has become a total joke when it comes to law and order. Murderers do not serve their full sentence or even anywhere near the part sentence they are supposed to do. The Government is scared to allow a public vote on capital punishment because they already know what the outcome will be and as a result we continue to see increasingly heinous murders and continue to see the perpetrators getting out ofter less than 10 years

 

It is a insult to the victims and their families

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Agree that life should mean life - but I've noticed the Tories have now done a U-turn on a promise to provide 5,000 more prison places - probably due to costings. But why build sponny new, state of the art prisons - surely camps similar to WW2 POW camps would be cheap and easy to build? :?

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saw a bit of the one show this week. they were trying to see if 100 people on cycles could provide enough energy for one house for one day.

don't know if they succeeded but it may be one option for prisoners punishments. get them all on bikes and producing energy. if they don't then the telly and video games won't work for long. also give them healthy exercise and would tire them out so much they would be little energy left over for causing trouble in the jails.

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Agree that life should mean life - but I've noticed the Tories have now done a U-turn on a promise to provide 5,000 more prison places - probably due to costings. But why build sponny new, state of the art prisons - surely camps similar to WW2 POW camps would be cheap and easy to build? :?

 

Steady on Obs - you'll have the do-gooders foaming at the mouth. Prisons have to be like luxury hotels these days!

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Prison isn't supposed to be a punishment. It's the place where we put people we don't want near the rest of us. It's too freely handed out and means nothing. Most repeat offenders really don't mind another six months. Given a choice between fines and six months, many opt for prison because it's less bothersome to them than coughing up. So many get sent that the places are overflowing and therefore everyone gets a third off unless they actually commit murder in there too.

 

The right answer is to stop sending people to prison for stupid things, like non-payment of fines and speeding and shoplifting. Reserve it for serious crimes and make the sentences nice and long. Instead, put in a system of punishment that is a real deterrent - and I do not mean hanging and shooting. I mean sending joyriders to mop up in operating theatres at weekend; making vandals repair twice the damage they did in their spare time; making drunks clean the sick puddles in A&E on a Friday night, make shoplifters stack shelves on the night shift.... things that are horrible and uncomfortable and make people think twice.

 

Personally, I'd advocate sending young offenders off to the armed forces. Not to fight in the front line, but to spend a year or two learning discipline and common sense and a pride in themselves. If sleeping in a bunk for two years and yomping in the rain isn't a deterrent I don't know what would be! :wink:

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The problem with your suggestion LP, is simply that you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. If these characters refuse fines or community service, then what do you do? More prisons (or prison camps), but with a simple carrot and stick regime - behave and you get an hours TV etc; misbehave and you gradually get degraded to a cold dank cell on bread and water - it's basically conditioned reflex, which seems to work with even the thickest animal! :wink:

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The problem with your suggestion LP, is simply that you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. If these characters refuse fines or community service, then what do you do? More prisons (or prison camps), but with a simple carrot and stick regime - behave and you get an hours TV etc; misbehave and you gradually get degraded to a cold dank cell on bread and water - it's basically conditioned reflex, which seems to work with even the thickest animal! :wink:

 

Horses are not known for their lawbreaking. You can certainly make a joyrider attend A&E to see the results of his antics. You can make a drunken yob sit in A&E with the stink of vomit. You can make a burglar face his victims. You can make it clear that gang members will find themselves on basic training. Community service is the right idea, but very badly managed. Local magistrates should make a judgement based upon the impact of the offender's actions on his victims or the local community, and the punishment should serve to remedy that impact to some degree whilst ramming home the message that whatever he did really wasn't worth it. Refusers go straight to barracks, male or female.

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Community service is the adult equivelent of the naughty step; only usefull for those with a disposition to play. Short of tying them up Hannibal Lector style, there's no way you can "force" them to "play" your game. :roll:

 

My game requires no cooperation. You bring drunken yobs into caualty under police escort and sit them there to enjoy four solid hours of stinking vomit and urine and seeing how drunks behave. You take joyriders to hospital to see the operations being performed on their unluckier brethren and they meet the parents of the maimed and dead and see the results. Those who steal lose their possessions to the bailiffs to pay back their victims. Repeat offenders go to barracks, no choice. The current wearing of orange jumpsuits and wiping walls is indeed feeble. Don't confuse that with my plans for world domination! :twisted:

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Us 'freeloaders' appreciate your commitment to supply us with the latest news updates especially on a Sunday Gary :wink:

 

You need to have a word with your boss though as it's not right that you are expected to work for free at weekends.... maybe you could put in an special overtime claim :wink::D

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No problem Gary, I'll send you my reporters fee in the post. :lol:

 

And by the way, I was physically in work at 6am this morning and the same on Saturday but nobody pays me any extra! :(:(:(

 

At least being web based you should be able to do it all from home and if not why not?

 

I've got two instalations to do this week up near Glasgow so I'll be out of circulation for a while.

 

Bill :)

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LP what's the point of taking "a drunk" to A&E, unless he's sober and you assume these characters will go volutarilly without being bound and gagged - non starter my dear. :roll: It would be easier to strap them in a chair with their head secured in position, and their eye lids cellotaped open; and have them watch non-stop vidios of A&E, traffic crashes etc - while in their prison cell! :wink:

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