Rifles Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Plans are being considered which could see people fined up to ?500 for failing to recycle food scraps Under the scheme, supported by Environment Secretary Hilary Benn, councils would be able to introduce fines of between ?80 and ?500. It could mean a slop bucket - or a kitchen caddy - is issued to every home across the UK. The plan was first suggested by Mr Benn earlier this summer. He said it was ridiculous to keep on dumping biodegradable waste which could be burned for energy or processed for biofuel. Defra is officially consulting on the plan to bring in a landfill ban on food waste. It is up to councils how to bring in the new system, but many will choose to threaten households with fines if they fail to comply . Source ITN Is it April1st or am i still dreaming ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 I remember when "I were a lad" in Wallasey my gran had a slop bucket for food waste that was collected every week. However I think if this scheme was introduced there would have to be more frequent collections. The threat of fines is typical NuLiebour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 That Hilary Benn is as much of a great big jumped up prat as his dad. The man is a complete buffoon if he thinks this is workable, I mean they can't even get a grip on the crime we have now in this bloody country so how are they going to cope with fining people for not throwing away food waste? This government really has run out of ideas and is just trying to make things as bad as they possibly can for when the Tories get it.... a bit like Saddam burning the oilfields after the first Gulf War! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 How on earth will they fine people? It's not like they can work out how much food you have NOT eaten Easy solution = eat your meal then rather than putting your leftovers in the bin and face a fine... or even putting them in a sinky conainer and keeping them until collection day.... just deposit them somewhere in the open (maybe a local hedgerow, canal bank, open space or street corner) for the birds, rats, mice etc etc. You will be helping the local wildlife too Another place to deposit it would be on a busy main road or motorway and as each car passes over the waste it would take up a little of it in the tyre treads. This would therefore distribute the waste easily and again would lower the landfil rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 A lot of people, myself included, recycle uncooked vegetable food waste by composting. Does Hilary Benn want all our chop bones, stale bread crusts, left over jam roly-poly and custard etc. to go into bins like the "pig bins" we had in the 40s? That's fine as long as it's taken away every day, otherwise we have the perfect breeding ground for flies, rats and every bacterium known to Man all sitting in our gardens. This country gets madder and madder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 wot Kate said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Over 700 years since we had the last peasants revolt. The next one gets closer by the day. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 It might help if we didn't waste food in the first place - I cooked too much cabbage the other day - no probs - had it the following day as bubble and squeak. Plus, it might help if packaged items were sold in smaller portions - so you can eat it all on one occasion, rather than realising too late that what's left is passed it's sell by date. Waste not - want not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Leftover food? Never mind swill bins - just issue one teenage boy per household. Trust me, there'll be no leftover food! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I can see that the market in sink waste disposal systems will be growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Had that here for the last 10 years or so and it works well So where is the problem?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 How does it work over there then? See, I can make sense of a scheme that provides containers and collections for people who WANT to join in. We have green bins and blue bins on that basis. But how do you operate a system that fines people who don't join in? If my caddy is empty because I recycle everything, how do you tell that from next door's which is empty because they chuck it all in the wheelie bin? Or do I have to stop recycling so there's something to throw away? That seems a bit counter-productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Sell by dates are responsible for a lot of the waste. My grand-children study the dates like hawks. In my day............... Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 we have brown bins the same size as a normal bin and all your compostable waste goes into them and its picked up every two weeks, not to forget we have yellow bin bags for plastics ect and blue bins for paper and grey for normal waste all are picked up on a two week basis.. This way normal household waste is cut down and recycling is very good.. beofre i forget glass to the bottle banks.. Its a good system once you know when and what is being picked up so a waste pcik up plan is sent to each household every year so you know,if or you just look at what bin everyone else is putting out.. Simple and effective Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 So it is a voluntary system and there's no fine? I can see that working if nobody minds the smell, but mine would end up with about a pound of bones in it and that's all. I've got kids, a composter, a dog, a rabbit and a bird table..... the effect is similar to locusts! Is the energy we'd recover really more than the energy used to empty the bins? I don't know what the population is over there or the standard wastage here or there. If it's going to make a big difference, then obviously it's worth a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Perhaps all that collected food waste could be sent to Conservative MP Alan Duncan who complained that he now had to survive "on rations". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Perhaps we could all start keeping pigs and goats - now that might cause a stink?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Iv'e seen the recycling people do in Bavaria, and yes it is efficient and easy enough. They even have pedal bins in the kitchen with two compartments inside! It is compulsory but people seem quite committed to the idea of recycling over there which is probably why it works. I recycle everything I can, but I wonder whether slop bins would work so well over here, it'd have to be efficiently organised otherwise it would be a serious health risk! I don't compost fruit/veg waste anymore unless I know it's home grown, as most of the stuff in the supermarkets are irradiated and don't seem to decompose naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Is the energy we'd recover really more than the energy used to empty the bins? I don't know what the population is over there or the standard wastage here or there. If it's going to make a big difference, then obviously it's worth a go. Its not really voluntary as if you dont the bin men may well not take your normal bins because it full of the wrong rubbish, whether or not the energy used is recovered well i should think so as every houshold recycles ok, 99.9% do. sofar the system here works well and no one really complains and at least the rubbish does get recycled and most isnt sent to some far off land... STeve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I do not think the problem is recycling ........ the problem is .... Do it or we fine you !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Perhaps they could give the disposal contract to the Mafia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 If Mandelson has anything to do with it, they probably already have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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