Sha Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 The last date for objections re the proposed phone mast in Appleton is 23rd June. Obviously the more objections the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Is this a touch of NIMBYism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 One doesn't need a mobile in Appleton darling... one gets ones butler to call and arrange the garden partys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I've no objection to any mobile phone masts in Appleton personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Is this a touch of NIMBYism?  Seems NIMBYism is everywhere... including Latchford  2001 AN application to erect a replacement monopole 'phone mast in LATCHFORD has been refused by planning committee members after residents voiced their objections.  2005 VODAPHONE is no longer applying for permission to erect a phone mast at Gainsborough Road, Wilderspool, following objections from residents and Latchford West councillors.  2005 PLANNERS at Warrington Borough Council have thrown out a scheme to build a 15m high phone mast in Lymm.  2008 plans for an O2 mobile phone mast on Warrington Road Penketh were refused.  but to be fair on you Peter... Latchford was approved for a 12.3 meter Vodaphone phone mast last month  I'm bored of looking now as it's 'not in my back yard' either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I understand it is far more difficult to stop a mast application if it below 15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I live in Appleton - the mobile phone recption is terrible - we need a mast somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 what network are you on Vodaphone has a few low spots in the Appleton area. All other networks show high reception in all of Warrington including 02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Dismayed, you will get lynched calling Gainsboro' rd Latchford. They call it Lower Walton on the bungalow estate. I make a point of addressing any envelopes Latchford, just to dampen their ideas of grandeur. PS. The cllrs object to everything, that's when they know what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Since when was Gainsborough Road Lower Walton I suppose the new "Walton" Locks development is on that side so maybe that's caused the confusion  Gainsborough Road and the other roads round come under the Latchford West Ward... but you know that  As for councillors... dont get me started... it's too late and I need sleep Grrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted June 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 My original post as a reminder of the last date for objections to the phone mast in Appleton was meant for the wider community, some of whom may browse this forum and may be interested in this subject. Â For your information Peter the proposed phone mast will not be in my backyard as I live on Cobbs Estate. The reasons I think it is worth objecting to this mast are mainly because it is unnecessary, there is already one mast just metres away which this company could share. I don't think that there's any evidence that they don't already have sufficient coverage of the area and suspect that they are merely trying to ensure a lions share of the market when the destruction of Appleton's green fields commences. It will have an extremely damaging effect on the character and setting of the area. Also, another point which I think is extremely important is that the people living in the immediate vicinity are very much opposed to another mast. To me this proposal is a conflict between people and greed, I choose to support the people. Â You may not think that any issues outside your own area are worth getting involved in, there is no need to knock me because I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I am not knocking you Sha, just questioning the reason behind your post. Â Mobiles are the present and the future. In some ways they are no different to pylons or telegraph poles. Given that there are that many about, how many do you actually notice in any one day. I dislike all these apartment blocks that have sprung up everywhere, but gradually you get used to them and don't notice them. Â Greenfields???? Â ALL those bordering your area right up to Appleton Thorn and Stretton were earmarked decades ago for development. Part of the "New Town" plan. So enjoy them whilst you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Just a thought, why can't they install a much bigger mast on the Appleton Industrial estate that all telecoms companies could use, and beam across the whole area. Maybe they can't do that because microwaves only travel a short distance and hence the need for more masts. Â Vodafone reception is poor in this area, as is Virgin. Â Remember "big brother" knows where you are...or approximately, when your mobile is switched on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 you will get lynched calling Gainsboro' rd Latchford. They call it Lower Walton on the bungalow estate. Â On a very old Cheshire map that I have, it is shown as "Walton Inferior".... and Higher Walton as "Walton Superior". ...there's elitism for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 I've noticed "masts" all over the rest of Town; wonder why the locals didn't object?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Perhaps its because the majority of people realise that without mobile phone masts, their mobile phones won't work too well. Â According to my A to Z Gainsborough Road is in Wilderspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 The early tithe maps (1836-51) show Lower Walton as stretching along the contour of the old river in the direction of Sankey Bridges as well as to the South of the MS canal as we see it today. The area at that time came under the Parish of Runcorn. So Paul K is right to some degree  At the same time Gainsborough Road and the surrounding area (owned by Manchester Ship Canal Co. ) came under the Parish of Warrington  On the 1910 map the area to the north of the Manchester Ship Canal is detailed as being Arpley Meadows which was separated by the old Latchford Canal that fed into Walton Locks (which is also detailed as being the parliamentary boundary). Gainsborough Road is in that section.  The Tithe map of 1836-51 also shows the whole area of the current day Stockton Heath being under the boundary of Appleton (left to right from roughly just before Walton gardens Zoo to Barleycastle?Top to bottom from just over the other side of SH wing bridge to just before the motorway at Stretton (give or take a few indentations along the way) This whole area at the time came under the parish of Great Budworth. Stockton Heath itself didn?t actually exist until c 1897  Latchford was actually a township within the Grappenhall Parish, and became a civil parish in 1866.  In 1894 the part of Latchford which was outside Warrington County Borough was separated and became Latchford Without.  In 1896 Latchford was then extended to include parts of Appleton and Latchford Without. It then transferred to Lancashire and in 1898 it was incorporated into Warrington civil parish. This also included the hamlet of Wilderspool.  Stockton Heath appeard in 1897 when it was taken from part of Appleton  St Wilfreds Church in Grappenhall was originally the ancient Parish Church for Latchford with St James being the Parish Church for other parts of Latchford.  In 1933 the area north of the Manchester Ship Canal was transferred to the county of Lancashire.  In 1936 other parts of Latchford Without and Grappenhall were also added to Stockton Heath along with part of the hamlet of Lumb Brook.  St Marys and All Saints was originally the ancient Parish Church for Stockton Heath and St Thomas?s (which was founded in c1838) was apparently the Parish Church for Acton Grange, Appleton, Walton Inferior and Walton Superior (today of course it covers modern day Stockton Heath).  St Johns in Walton finally became the parish church for Walton Inferior in c1879  I?ll shut up now although it is fascinating how boundaries, areas and place names change over time and how we all are not really from where we think  Bet no-one read all that ... your loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I've noticed "masts" all over the rest of Town; wonder why the locals didn't object?! Â Seems that from today's headlines they do, Planning Inspector thinks otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Bet no-one read all that ... your loss  No yours if you put money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Also, another point which I think is extremely important is that the people living in the immediate vicinity are very much opposed to another mast. No issue with that whatsoever, as long as those objecting don;t have a mobile phone. To me this proposal is a conflict between people and greed, I choose to support the people. I agree totally. I am sure the people of Appleton want their mobiles, they just don't want a mast in their area to service it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 It?d be interesting to do a poll to establish if the people in Appleton are actually opposed to mobile phone technology or whether this is just a case of a very vocal minority intent to impose it?s wishes onto the majority? Â In my experience of public objections, most have little or no understanding of the facts and rely instead on a few loud-mouthed individuals to shout down and heckle at any reasoned logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 All interesting stuff Dismayed. I suppose the continual changes keep some jobsworth busy. It just confuses everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 It?d be interesting to do a poll to establish if the people in Appleton are actually opposed to mobile phone technology or whether this is just a case of a very vocal minority intent to impose it?s wishes onto the majority? Â In my experience of public objections, most have little or no understanding of the facts and rely instead on loud-mouthed individuals to shout down and heckle at any reasoned logic. Â Surely not Bill, surely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I read every word Dismayed. This sort of history fascinates me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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