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The original railways were built by private enterprise who knew there was profit to be made. If it's such a good idea then surely private enterprise would rush in to build HS2. As its going to be the taxpayer forking out I get the distinct impression that it will be a waste of taxpayers money as well as being a very expensive rail journey for the traveller. Its a vanity project by the politicians who can always spend other people's money. :angry: :angry: :angry:

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The tax payer will build it and then like HS1, sell it on.

 

People may know that I have cpanigned in recent years for better rail, locally at least. I however am against it.

 

If you look at the SWT that use HS1, then there is a premium charged to use the HS1 services as opposed to the normal line services (same destination, markedley quicker). As pointed out above, who will use HS2 to save 20 mins. Business only probably.

 

However there is the prospect of Central Manchester to say Paris in less than 4 hours which is tempting and possibly beating a plane.

 

Watch the HS2 part 2 route north of Birmingham. Hasnt been puiblished yet and is rumoured that it goes through some marginal tory seats. Possibility it may skirt the east of Warrington and come into Manchester that way.

 

In all, i can think of better ways to spend £32bn.

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Not exactly a vote of confidence then! Can't say I'm convinced either way - whilst there seems to be a case for modernising our transport infrastructure, we don't seem to have a good record with "big projects", by the time this gets built it could end up costing ten times this initial estimate and be too costly to use for most ordinary folk. :unsure:

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But the reasoning behind this link is this. "When the waters start to rise due to global warming and the south off england starts to sink beneath the waves, they will be able to evacuate the most Important prople further north in a very short time and so save many more of them than would be possible otherwise." :mrgreen:

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Think the theory is to have seperate tracks for a hierarchy of modes: (a) High Speed (inter City) - using seperate "straight" lines. (B) Comuter (local) - stopping at every station. © Freight (containers). Problems arise however, as with road systems, at the transport hubs, where these systems converge and congestion arises, especially if there is shared track. The obsession with speed tends to be buisiness led, in the case of goods; retailers tend to no longer keep large stocks in situ; many foods are imported by air from all over the world, rather than home grown locally. So the debate is widened to our overall "modern" lifestyle demands, which places these added pressures on our transport infrastructure. :shock:

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But the reasoning behind this link is this. "When the waters start to rise due to global warming and the south off england starts to sink beneath the waves, they will be able to evacuate the most Important prople further north in a very short time and so save many more of them than would be possible otherwise." :mrgreen:

 

 

Will that be on expenses?

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We don't need high profile white elephant boondoggles like HS2. What we really need is more alternative ROUTES for the existing modes of traffic - both for road traffic and for rail traffic. Parallel east and west coast mainlines, another M6, more trans-pennine routes, an alternative to the A14, and many others.

 

That way the disruption caused by a breakdown, an accident, a surge in demand on a particular day, engineering works, weather, or any one of a hundred different causes is minimised. The result would be a transport infrastructure which might not be the fastest in the world - on the odd occasion when everything happens to be running smoothly - but could easily be among the most reliable.

 

It would then succeed in meeting the primary purpose of such as system. Getting people and goods to their destinations at the expected time, every time.

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