Nick Tessla Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 A proper use of the honours system - a recognition that redemption is possible and a fine example to his peers. Far better than the usual list of entertainers, sportsmen and business people who are already very well rewarded finacially, not to mention time serving senior civil servants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Don't know the person in question, but well done and doubtless well deserved. A local man Chris Upham has been given an MBE. Chris has worked hard for organisations over a long period. So nice that awards go to unsung heroes. Happy days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Geoff not there yet then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Personally I don't agree with the honours list.... why not just give them to those who pay the most tax as they are contributing more than most??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Full list of honours - the Warrington ones mainly for their charitable work so fully deserving. http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/12254/1/Charity-stalwarts-receive-New-Year-honours/Page1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 One wonders if we will ever be reading posts by Sir Observer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 One wonders if we will ever be reading posts by Sir Observer? Not if Labour get back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Who's Chris Preddie??? As far as the honours system, I see nothing changes ............... Ex-convict Gerald Ronson and Conservative Party supporter Paul Ruddock (A disgraced property tycoon and a hedge fund trader who cashed in on the credit crunch) both honoured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Seems there is honour among thieves then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Gerald Ronson gets a CBE for his donations of over £30 million to charities and Great Ormond St hospital. Anybody else would have been awarded a knighthood. I suppose there is no such thing as redemption in your eyes Wolfie? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Where did Gerald get the money to give Asp, was it money he made from Guinness ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 As far as I know he rebuilt his business after his spell in prison. Perhaps you should make that your first homework for the new term Lt Kije Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 So if I rob a bank, go to jail for a few years, come out and give the robbed money to charity I should get a CBE.................. weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 That only works if you give a sizeable chunk of it to the Tories too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Who's Chris Preddie??? Chris Preddie is the cousin of Rick and Danny Preddie, the things that murdered 10 year old Damiola Taylor. Chris Preddie was a knife carrying gang member who was a drug dealer and robbed people but now a youth worker. Dorothy Pritchard I know from seeing her around regularly when we stayed in Warrington. She is a very lovely, generous lady who has done much work for MENCAP and, if anyone deserves an OBE, she does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Except he didn't rob a bank Wolfie, he defrauded (allegedly) other members of the City "club" that you are always praising (Sarcasm - sorry). :wink: Do you have any proof of your allegation that he has given any money to any political party PJ? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I never said that HE robbed a bank, I was using an analogy. However he was foung guilty of theft. Does it matter where he stole from or whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Did Ronson get a "lighter" sentence?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Did Ronson get a "lighter" sentence?! You need to stop reading those xmas cracker jokes obs. Has he seen the light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I never said that HE robbed a bank, I was using an analogy. However he was foung guilty of theft. Does it matter where he stole from or whom? So,in your eyes, the fact that he served a prison sentence and paid a £5million fine, and then went on to rebuild his life and business and donate millions to charity counts for nothing? He is to be an outcast from society forever? Good job he didn't murder someone then. :roll: :roll: You're all heart Wolfie. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Chris Preddie is the cousin of Rick and Danny Preddie, the things that murdered 10 year old Damiola Taylor. Chris Preddie was a knife carrying gang member who was a drug dealer and robbed people but now a youth worker. Which news report did you read Cleo, the reports I read said that yes, he sold "drugs" - cannabis (big deal) no mention of him robbing people or whether he carried a knife, and certainly no talk of actually using one - who is his cousins should be no reason to deny him the honour (a lot of us have relatives with dodgy pasts or are total scumbags), If anything it adds to what he has achieved. In any case ..joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons which need no repentence LUKE CHAPTER 15 VERSE 7 Leaving aside the religious aspect, I feel that society should have some "joy" over people who turn their lives around, particuarly when they can be an example to others from teh same background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I have great admiration for anyone who can turn their life around, but does that warrant a CBE? There are many people who have been youth workers and model citizens all their lives and who will never get an honour. The same for all those who give regularly to charity, whether it be £30 or £30m, who decides at what amount it warrants being honoured. IMO it is far easier to give someone elses money to charity than that which has been worked hard for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted January 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I have great admiration for anyone who can turn their life around, but does that warrant a CBE? There are many people who have been youth workers and model citizens all their lives and who will never get an honour. Very true - and personally I would like to see more of them them awarded honours rather than many of the usual recipients who already receive substantial material rewards for their activities. However , in this case, I feel that it is more than just about awarding the individual - it is the message that it semds out to those from a background similar to the recipient - a message made more powerful by the fact that he has not, in the past, been a model citizen. In that way he may be seen by kids as "one of us" rather than "them" - the establishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 A relative of the killers of Damilola Taylor has been awarded an OBE despite boasting about robbing people in an internet video. BY HIS OWN ADMISSION:- In the video – called His Life In Rhyme – Mr Preddie is seen walking around Peckham where he says he spent his childhood. In one scene, he walks under a railway arch where he claims he and his gang used to ‘rob’ people and take drugs. He says to camera: ‘These are the parts where we just used to smoke, hang out, wait for victims to come, so that, basically, rob people and stuff like that. I think this was like the robbing grounds.’ Chris used to carry a knife when he was younger, but now he works with children to teach them about the dangers of doing just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Very true - and personally I would like to see more of them them awarded honours rather than many of the usual recipients who already receive substantial material rewards for their activities. However , in this case, I feel that it is more than just about awarding the individual - it is the message that it semds out to those from a background similar to the recipient - a message made more powerful by the fact that he has not, in the past, been a model citizen. In that way he may be seen by kids as "one of us" rather than "them" - the establishment. Try telling that to Damiola's family! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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