Bill Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Westy Hall Latchford This is a residential care home where old folk, with age-related illnesses or disability, go to spend their final years. There?s not an awful lot going for them but at their age in life, they don?t really ask for much. They each have their own room that becomes their home and there are a couple of shared common rooms where they can sit and watch some telly. In one of these rooms, residents that have smoked all their life are still allowed the small luxury of having a cigarette. Their not allowed to smoke in their rooms and can?t at their age just nip outside for a smoke. The care workers don?t object to this, in fact they say that the smoking room is only unorganised activity that actually brings people together socially, something they find hard to achieve. There are currently just four residents left who used the smoking room, so it?s no big problem, well not that is unless you work for the health and safety Gestapo. Could you believe that some totally insensitive and uncaring jobsworth has told the care home that they must replace all the seating in this room with harder chairs for no other reason other than that people might get too comfortable there. Nobody in their right mind could ever pass a law where the sole objective was to deliberately cause discomfort to the elderly so this has to be the action of someone who makes up their own ?rules? These people are in their eighties and nineties and have worked hard all their lives, paid taxes and gone through world wars to give us what we have today only to find that now in the twilight of their years, some idiot want?s to give them a harder seat. It?s absolutely disgusting, these so called experts should hang their heads in shame for even thinking about imposing such measures. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 beyond belief, anyway of find out who this jobsworth is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBain Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Why not just superglue that jobsworth's gob open and let the residents use it as as ash tray instead :redmad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I did post this reply "eleswhere too!!" This should be taken up at the highest level Bill. The person responsible for this disgraceful event should be named, shamed and sacked immediately. Therein lies the big problem with this administration; you can kick out the tinpot politicians called councillors but you can't do anything to the idiots employed by the council who actually make the decisions and cause all this misery and heartache. I would say take it up with Helen Southworth or Helen Jones; but then the two Bliar Babes are too busy for such trivialities I imagine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 "Jobsworth" wouldn't have had an excuse, if the Government legislation hadn't given him one. And we do need to think of the health outcomes for these 90 yr olds - they may get lung cancer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Bill, The cllrs for Westy are Hans Mundry and Steve Wright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Isn't he a DJ as well....in the afternoon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Yes thanks for that Pete but I need to find out if this comes from the council or some other group with nothing better to do. I was asked if I could think up any way that funds could be raised to pay for these harder seats and I think you could guess my reply. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 The arguement that will probably be deployed is: that soft furnishings present a "fire risk". Wasn't aware that EPHs are excempt in any part from this trivial legislation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Bill. There is a place behind Homebase on the Riverside Retail park who sell such chairs (but they are not cheap). I bought a high backed PVC chair for my father from there a few weeks ago that is both hard and fire retardant. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Observer / John I did ask that but the answer was very definitely the comfort factor and nothing to do with fire risk. They were told that by providing comfortable chairs, they were actually encouraging the residents to use and stay in the room whereas harder chairs would have the opposite effect. The TV was also removed from the room for exactly the same reason. Having watched the debate on the new smoking rules on many forums, clearly there are some out there who will never be happy unless smoking is totally banned. Given people like these exist, it?s not unreasonable to assume that Mr Jobsworth thinks in this way as well. Now he or she can?t force the residents to stop smoking in what for them is their own home and rather than accept defeat, they choose to make life uncomfortable for them. Bill PS Observers joke about converting to prison status wasn?t that far off the mark as residents in the main remain in their rooms and don?t get to go outside. You also have to bear in mind also that the people who live there are not as mobile as us and don?t just nip in for a smoke. My mother in law uses a zimmer frame and given the choice would remain in the same seat all day provided of course it?s not a hard one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo2508 Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Maybe me and my little friend from another post on here (have a go heroes post) should go round and try and persuade these clever decison makers to change their minds :biggrinbounce: :biggrinbounce: :onfire: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Bill. It is my lifes ambition to grow old but I do not want to end up in one of those places , with all the will in the world they are depressing places. I frequently visit our elderly family members in a very nice home in Liverpool but as nice as the place is it still depresses me so dear god they should let the old folk have there soft chairs if they want them. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Originally posted by Nomad: Maybe me and my little friend from another post on here (have a go heroes post) should go round and try and persuade these clever decison makers to change their minds :biggrinbounce: :biggrinbounce: :onfire: Not funny John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 I think this travesty is worthy of a news report, I want their telly back right now! I want them to have comfy chairs and I wasnt the 'hole behind this to massage their feet while they smoke ! lets kick up a stink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Absolutely pathetic..... jobsworths I hope you feel proud of yourselves and can sleep at night !! (perhaps on your HARD beds ! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 "Jobsworth" is merely jumping on "the anti-smoking bandwagon" like the Consultant who refused a smoker an operation on the NHS, then offered to do it private. The Government are ultimately to blame by producing trivial and ill thought through legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I dont have a problem with surgeons refusing smoke related operations to treat people who smoke. My heart surgeon would not entertain anyone who smoked. NHS or Private. He said I have quite enough people to see who look after themselves without seeing people who dont care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 So what if you drink alcohol? Is it the same? Many heart related diseases come from abuse of alcohol - and you don't have to be a down and out alcoholic to have an alcoholic heart!! :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Those folk "who don't look after themselves" pay his wages, the arrogant B could do with a dose of humility, to impress on him that he is a public servant - not it's master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I suppose developing the theme, the legal system could decide not to bother investigating crimes committed against those who themselves are involved in crime. The list can go on and on I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Exactly Paul - we are moving towards a crumbling society with no love or compassion for anyone else but our wallets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I'm gradually becoming suseptible to the introduction of Sharia Law! That Consultant, being guilty of collecting his salary under false pretences, could be deemed a thief, and thus have his hands cut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 And I say - What ever it takes to wake people up! Maybe we need to shut off out TV's, radios and computers and get outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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