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  1. I had one of those email warning messages today about a new drug, I googled it and found that it is true. Rife in Columbia at the moment and I dont know of it over here but there again like most other things we are bound to get the problem. Burundanga There seems to be a new moral panic percolating through the blogosphere, this time about a mind-control date-rape zombie-making plant called borrachero, or burundanga, or devil's breath ? "the world's most sinister drug." Under its influence, we are told, you remain lucid and articulate yet absolutely compliant to any suggestion. When you awaken, you have no recollection of what has happened. Colorless, odorless, and tasteless, the drug is slipped into drinks and sprinkled onto food. Victims become so docile that they help thieves rob their homes and empty their bank accounts. Women have been drugged repeatedly over days, gang-raped or rented out as prostitutes, or convinced to willingly give up their own children. This drug is scopolamine, and the plant it comes from is any of the Colombian Brugmansia species, often called to? in Per? or borrachero in Colombia, which we have discussed here. Now to? is indeed a powerful sacred plant, with strong hallucinogenic and other effects, almost all of them unpleasant. But I think that what we are seeing in these stories is a recycling of an urban legend, and a sacred plant is getting a bum rap. Apparently, these stories began circulating in 1995, with an article attributed to the Wall Street Journal. "It seems that everyone in Bogota knows someone who has been victimized by the drug," the article said. "In one common scenario, a person will be offered a soda or drink laced with the substance. The next the person remembers is waking up miles away, extremely groggy and with no memory of what happened. People soon discover that they have handed over jewelry, money, car keys, and sometimes have even made multiple bank withdrawals for the benefit of their assailants. Because burundanga is often given at seedy bars or houses of prostitution, many victims are reluctant to come forward." According to stories circulating at the time, in the mid-1990s Colombia was, as described in a later article in The Guardian, "in the grip of a crime wave caused by the use of a plant drug known locally as burundanga. The substance was implicated in hundreds of robberies, rapes and murders. According to doctors at Kennedy Hospital in Bogota, around 20 victims a week were being admitted to their emergency ward with no recollection of what had happened to them ? a sure sign that, presumably by accepting a drink or a candy from a stranger, they had become unwitting victims of 'the tree that drives people mad.'" In some of these cases, we are told, these burundanga casualties were not just the victims of crimes, but also their perpetrators. A senator and his wife reported that, presumably under its influence, they had spent a night withdrawing huge amounts of money from cash dispensers and handing it to a gang of thieves. A well-known diplomat vanished for three days only to reappear at Santiago airport in Chile, in the company of a woman he didn't know, carrying a suitcase full of cocaine. The burundanga story was revived in 2003 by an apparent Reuters dispatch from Bogot?, under the attention-catching headline Drug Turns Crime Victims Into Zombies. The story begins with this compelling lede: The last thing Andrea Fernandez recalls before being drugged is holding her newborn baby on a Bogota city bus. Police found her three days later, muttering to herself and wandering topless along the median strip of a busy highway. Her face was badly beaten and her son was gone. Fernandez is just one of hundreds of victims every month who, according to Colombian hospitals, are temporarily turned into zombies by a home-grown drug called scopolamine which has been embraced by thieves and rapists. And making the rounds now, on the eve of 2008, is a a nine-part documentary about burundanga produced by online broadcast network VBS, entitled Colombian Devil's Breath ? "the most dangerous drug in the world." The station ? whose creative head is Spike Jonze, director of Being John Malkovich ? sent two hip young reporters down to Colombia to try and score some burundanga. One of them stands in the jungle and tells us that scopolamine is "the worst roofie you can ever imagine, times a million." The reporter continues, "You are at the whim of suggestions like, hey, take me to your ATM, hey, come with me to the hotel room, while you are completely conscious and articulate." The first part of the series is here: The drug is said to be administered in several ways. A man will approach you asking for directions, and show you a piece of paper on which the address is written. But the folded paper actually contains powdered burundanga, which the man blows in your face, rendering you powerless. Not surprisingly, this is exactly the method of administration depicted for the zombie powder tetrodotoxin in the Wes Craven movie The Serpent and the Rainbow. The plant can be put in a drink, in chewing gum, in candy. It is said that a prostitute will put burundanga on her nipples in order to drug a customer ? itself an urban legend, apparently ultimately derived from the pilot episode of CSI, in which a prostitute dies from dermal absorption of scopolamine on her nipples. Series character Greg Sanders says, "No, it's scopolamine. It's a chemical used for motion sickness.... One drop of this stuff and she's out cold." There are several reasons to be skeptical of these stories. First, the effects of scopolamine overdose are quite well known. Clinical signs and symptoms are those of the typical peripheral anticholinergic syndrome seen in any atropine poisoning ? dilated pupils, dry mucous membranes, rapidly beating heart, fever, flushed dry skin, urinary retention, confusion, disorientation, and hallucinations. Rarely seizures occur, and sometimes there are tactile hallucinations, such as crawling insects. Indeed, medical students have a mnemonic for this syndrome: blind as a bat, hot as a hare, dry as a bone, red as a beet, and mad as a hatter. Patients are often amnesiac for events between ingestion and recovery. Fatalities are rare, but have been reported in children. Sometimes urinary retention is so severe as to require catheterization. Here are two examples, both from the same emergency room. A young man who had ingested Datura straemonium, rich in scopolamine, was admitted with agitation, delirium with persecutory ideation, and frightening hallucinations of being assaulted by animals. Similarly, a young woman, who had ingested the same plant, was agitated, with delirium, anxiety, auditory hallucinations, and frightening visual and tactile hallucination of green turtles walking on her. In both cases, the patients were restrained and treated with the antipsychotic drug cyamemazine, and both returned to normal after 36 and 40 hours, respectively. Now, it is certainly true that people can do very weird and self-destructive things after ingesting scopolamine, especially if they are young, na?ve, unprepared, and unattended; a collection of horror stories is here. But it is difficult to see these emergency room patients as being the sort of person a criminal would want to accompany into a bank. Note, too, that both patients required restraint. Indeed, one of the problems in managing cases of scopolamine overdose is that the patient is combative rather than compliant. Hospitalization is often required ? some say always required ? for such agitated and combative behavior. A vivid self-report of a scopolamine overdose is found here; the paranoid hallucinations and aggressive behavior ? the author reports having severely bitten a police officer ? are far from the goofily compliant behavior of the burundanga stories. Second, if burundanga worked so well, then we wouldn't be having all these arguments about waterboarding terrorism suspects. We would simply give them scopolamine and ask them, very nicely, what they were planning on doing next week, and could they please give us a look at their laptops. But scopolamine ? along with barbiturates, sodium thiopental, and ordinary alcohol ? has been thoroughly tested as a "truth serum," and it doesn't work. As Chris Suellentrop pointed out in an article in Slate, "So-called truth serums lower your inhibitions, and as a result you may become chattier but not necessarily more truthful. Losing your inhibitions isn't the same as losing your self-control.... If a terrorist has something he wants to get off his chest, he may be more apt to tell you about it while drunk or drugged. But you might learn about his propensity to wear his mother's burqa when he was a child, or his sinful crush on Madonna, and not his plan to blow up the Eiffel Tower. Or he may tell you lies, or he may tell you nothing at all." The article in The Guardian, referred to above, puts it this way: "The idea that any chemical agent can be used to programme unwitting subjects to act against their will is regarded by most professional specialists as fiction." Even the fictitious drug hyoscine-pentothal, used by agent Jack Bauer for interrogation purposes in the television series 24, apparently works by causing intense pain rather than by inducing stuporous compliance. And I do not think that a powerful hallucinogen ? one that makes you believe, for example, that green turtles are crawling on you ? can be called a truth serum in any event. Third, we should bear in mind that many urban legends center on eating or drinking things that have been contaminated by the feared other. In the Upper Amazon, for example, some of the tension between mestizos and Indians is reflected in the concept of cungatuya, a potentially fatal sickness which slowly closes the throat of the patient, until the person is unable to speak, eat, or drink. It is caused by a sorcerer sending a mashu, bat, to drop its phlegm or saliva into water which the victim then unknowingly drinks; the bat phlegm or saliva turns into worms that cause wounds in the victim?s throat, and which must removed by a shaman sucking them out. In San Mart?n, according to anthropologist Fran?oise Barbira-Freedman, the mestizos believe that this sickness is spread by Indians; and at feasts, weddings, and markets, mestizos warn each other about watching for phlegm in shared glassware. As in other contexts with which we may be more familiar ? drinking fountains and bus seats, for example ? the other is viewed as a source of dangerous contamination. Fourth, some of these stories are ... well, fishy. A man goes into what the Wall Street Journal calls a "seedy bar or house of prostitution," and then has to explain to his wife why his cash is all gone. A well-known diplomat has to explain a lost weekend, a woman not his wife, and a suitcase full of cocaine. As The Guardian puts it, some claims of brainwashing "are better understood in terms of disinhibition which causes people to act in ways that they later regret." Such stories remind me of this line from Ghostbusters II, when a woman being interviewed by Bill Murray tells him, "I was sitting at the bar alone, and this alien approached me. He started talking to me, he bought me a drink. And then he must have used some kind of a ray or a mind control device because he forced me to follow him to his room and that's where he told me about the end of the world." For example, the Wall Street Journal article tells the story of an architect named David Meneses. One Friday night, Mr. Meneses stopped at a pharmacy to buy antacid. He says that two well-dressed men approached his car, and the last thing he remembers is one of them unwrapping a piece of candy. "I woke up the next day at noon at my house," he says, with no memory of how he got there. On Monday, Mr. Meneses says that he checked with his bank, and he was told that his ATM card had made thirteen withdrawals for a total of about $700 on that Friday night. The doorman in his building said that he had seen Mr. Meneses come in at 7:00 a.m. looking "nervous and confused." Three days later, Mr. Meneses noticed that he had a flat tire. Two men on the street approached him and offered to change it. He remembers that they gave him something to drink ? and he drank it. "I can't imagine why," he says. Police found him asleep in his car six hours later. He said that he had been robbed of his radio and about $125. He blames burundanga for both incidents. Still, despite my skepticism, there is every reason to be careful. There really is some nasty stuff out there ? real date-rape drugs such as gamma-hydroxybutyric acid and flunitrazepam. If you are looking for a little action in Medellin, be at least as careful as you are ? I hope ? in Chicago.
  2. I have better not complain, people get upset, but just to point out the camera's are run by the council not the police. The police can have a feed off the camera if the council want the police to watch. Our wonderful council do a cracking job. That should not upset anyone should it?
  3. There is a lot of fake UK ?20 notes around as well, but I had better not complain, Eagle would not like it.
  4. Hi Legion Well I cannot say too much as this may end up as an official complaint. He has come out far worse than when he went in, he still has the original complaint as well as another two caused directly by the lack of care. The GP has been to see him several times now and we have refused to send him back there to that hell hole of EMU. If he is to die it will be in peace at home where at least he is clean and looked after. On the ward it is still the same the staff sit around their nursing station chatting about holidays and nights out while you are trying to drag them away to do some nursing. After we complained I thought it was strange that his notes got re written, they even wrote on the top re written. Where they only contained three pages they increased overnight to about fifteen. An absolute disgrace that place and certainly not a place for sick people to go. Nurses have lost all of my respect now.
  5. Hi Obs ~ isn?t that why % increases are unfair. 3% of ?100,000 is not bad but 3% of ?10,000 is poor. I cannot see any government attempting to raise the status of pensioners and the poorly paid. This labour government more than most want to get in the pockets and wallets of people with money and sod the rest. Brown is no better than any of the world?s dictators. Spending money around the world and not interested in what is happening at home. The really really sad thing about this country is there is no one to take control and we , the pensioners and poorly paid have to suffer for their gluttonous luxury over spending. This winter is really going to be a winter of discontent. Maybe the plan is to kill off the now ?Non worthwhile? members of our country by malnutrition, cold, poverty, and poor health care.
  6. Hi Baz I have a 94 year old who is double incontinent, with the onset of confusion who has just had to endure the horrors of Warrington hospital. I used to have the greatest respect for nurses but after what I have seen in the last few weeks my opinion has changed dramatically. The standards of care from A&E to EMU to a ward were really bad they did not manage to cure any problems just we were pleased to get them home where at least they are safe, warm and clean. And can be cared for, it is very hard work. But after the treatment in there, or lack of it, I would not pay them in brass washers. We do it for nothing by the way. You may think that this is a one off, sadly, oh no, when you spend a long time at the hospital and speak with other people they have the same experience. I suppose that some people might think that the council officials here in Warrington are doing a fine job for Warrington for their wages. Oh and don?t forget their free parking, and the store discount cards. No one ever complains on here about refuse collectors do they? Or road repairs, Busses, Bus lanes, Cycle lanes, Strange planning approvals, Just to name a few. But all for the good of the rate payer of course.
  7. seeing as most council workers are over paid, underworked and provide poor service. What are they going on strike for anyway? What is the worse council department? Social services ! Trading Standards ! Highways ! Planning ! Is there a good department? Is that an easier question?
  8. Now that I do like, I wonder if it is still law? The MC is the greatest piece and corner stone to English Law. If he wins, I will send one. Can we have all the MP's in the stocks. Maybe the gibbet for some.
  9. I suppose they are lucky in that they have the right to strike. I dont think that Gordon will be too bothered what people say or do, he has had a nice cosy well paid job and bins full of expences. When he is turfed out in May someone else can sort the problem out while he sits and jokes about peoples misery on the other side. When are we off the downing street, want the rope? [ 17.04.2008, 23:52: Message edited by: little fella ]
  10. Is it not like that over the whole comtract industry, any work done in a public sector building is charged at a vastly inflated price. A contractor told me he had to charge it at that rate because he would not get paid for 90 days and three requests;if he was lucky. Also he had to carry a ?1m insurance which was not needed on private jobs. No doubt that on these big PFI projects there needs to be a lot of discussion and meetings, and a warmer climate makes for a better working atmosphere.
  11. But he does worry about it every morning !!!!
  12. It is not every area that has a bridge that floods and cuts it off for days on end. You should pay extra tax for that feature. I see the school kids now cross the railway lines to get to school.
  13. They cannot afford to pay the coppers that they have and in Cheshire they cannot even afford the police force. Where are they going to take these bobbies from? New recruits? PSCO? specials? or the experienced one that we now have and need? Who is going to pay cash strapped Cheshire for training new officers? It is certainly not going to be the Home Office; they will not face the responsibilities they have now. Gordon Brown will have a cunning master plan, the public will pay.... Although he says he worries every morning about how the people are going to pay his errors of judgement. Miss Smith want putting in a space craft and sending to Mars where she belongs.
  14. Why bother with elections? As they said 'We will coopt onto the PC anyone we want'. Does that mean that if someone happens to loose the election they can stay un elected yet there coopted on by a friend. :confused:
  15. You know what they say ~ Change is as good as a rest. Mind you it didnt work with the Lib Dems did it. Or did it we got change but nothing moved so it must be rest I think there has been a few wrong calls in Stockton Heath of late. It really is a success story shame the parish council has not kept up.
  16. I would enjoy the expenses and even the job. But sitting round a table with load of self opinionated numpties who have no interest other than just their own person ego's and one upmanship is not for me. I think that the whole basic organisation of local government is corrupt and full of lying toe rags who should be spending time behind bars rather than pouncing around trying to convince people that they are respectable. It makes it even worse when they become puppets of an even more corrupt central government and do as they are told even to the detriment of the local people. For local councillors I would not call the fire brigade or lend water if the were on fire. They are beyond contempt. I am sorry if you are a local councillor but to get respect of the people you should lead by example.
  17. Is it not that anyone can stand up at a meeting and propose a vote of no confidence, it does not mean a thing. If however it was a vote by the elected members of no confidence in the chair then it would have to go for a vote. We cannot have the local crack pot walking into any public meeting and saying he has no confidence in them and being able to forcing an expensive election that would never do. Was it last year that the school group complained about the council, and the teachers and the town hall, just because they did not get their way on knocking down a Victorian heap which was not fit for purpose? What is the point of putting forward a vote of no confidence in a council a couple of weeks before an election anyway? Is it just trouble mongering and what happens when the old ones get re elected?
  18. Trading standards and enviroment heath are not interested in peoples behaviour, and when you ring the police they called three days after the event to take a report and guess what the people had gone. We have to accept that it is all sown up and people dont matter. I told him to go to a military surplus store and buy a wide range frequency jammer that would black out all the radio microphones. That would ruin the show and he could get his own enjoyment.
  19. I am still pleased to say that I shall be out of the country and unable to take part in the little game. We had utter crap under the labour dictatorship, it does not seem to be any better under the Lib dems. Around here there is no alterative I expect theat they will be crawling from out of the woodwork soon asking for votes. We never hear or see our bloke and if he gets back in will be Mr Mayor next year so we see even less of him but no doubt be reading about what a super time he is having living the good life visiting all these countries that we are twinned with at pub lic expence.
  20. It is not the council who is taking ariel photos it is a mapping company, I have not seen their plane for quite some time so I think they have finished here for a few years. It is registered number is G-Grid. The council just buy the photographs and compare with the last and find who has made alterations without consent. They then put your council tax down.
  21. There will be plenty of council officials there to stop you trading. My friend is not short of money and has no need to do that. Paying band H rates at ?2500 they do not like people have sex in their garden, using the garden as a toilet, dumping beer cans and rubbish. As well as the noise of crap music. It maybe some peoples idea of fun and a good time but not everyone's. They work hard all week and just like to enjoy their garden at the weekend. He was assaulted last year for telling a couple to get out of his garden. With the police too busy in the ground and a security guard whose attitude was like yours saying its only one day. With the thought of two days he would like to go away but the house would not be safe and he would only have to face the damage when he got back. What he needs are some American cops who will shoot anyone who steps over the fence. I said I would stop and guard the place with a 50,000 volt cattle prod and a cattle electric fence around the garden. Make my day punk.
  22. I disagree with that Obs as any retail area can expand and attract more people, Take outlet village Ellesmere port they have had a steady build extension programme for many years. They are still planning more. People are creatures of comfort, they want to drive their car to the shop, buy their goods, put it in the car and go home. These are the spenders who bring prosperity not the pensioner going on a bus to buy a few items that then has to be carried around till its bus home time. Make a clear difference between the day and night economies. The conditions for expansion run to a mathematical formula. Car parking is the biggest factor followed by choice of shops, get these right and you are making money. Add in a multiplier like restaurants, warmth, undercover and you are getting big time. Growth is expansion and the more money that is coming in the more will follow. There is a saturation point, but Warrington is no where near. As we know it is going into steady decline which is a shame as it does have potential. Mal administration for years and years has brought this about. Warrington does not match anything, they actively hate the motorist, there is almost no where to eat, They do have golden square but its not a very nice place anyway. Other amenities are scattered around the town, 20 years ago there was talk about putting in a dome cover for Market gate and joining Golden Sq, Cockhedge, and the market with covered streets, that was instantly dismissed. For any town of this age car parking is a problem as it takes land but it can be over come, Widnes, Northwich, Bolton, Leigh, Wigan, St Helens have all found the solution. Its not rocket science and you do not need to bring in consultants to tell you where its going wrong. They just need to get in the car and go to another town shopping. Winwick road site should have a car park on it. One level underground, plus a ground and 1st floor make it free parking for 4 hours , very cheap for 6 and contract parking for 8+. About 2000 parking spaces, Express walkways to golden square, Give golden Sq a friendly makeover. Remove the gardens from Horsemarket and Buttermarket street and have large flat community activity areas. Enforce and expand the Town hall conservation area, all buildings must be clean and in good repair, Re start the retail small business initiative where if you are a small owner occupier business you get favourable rates and business support.
  23. I think that Warrington town centre as it stands should be forgotten and left to decline. A new retail town centre should be built not too far away maybe just east of the M6 or on Burtonwood, I am sure there will be plenty of investors for a project like that. We could have had the Trafford centre that would have been a good bolt on. Our current town centre could then be re designed as a pedestrian local service area. Expanding on its cultural and historic history. We would benefit from the more trade and more tourists. There would be less traffic in and passing through the town. It will never happen though. I wonder where the help is coming from? You only need to walk around the town loads and loads of shops have closed even in the golden square. With the footfall so low the remaining shops cannot stay open forever. Without people spending money its doomed and with money as tight as it is, who in their mind would come to Warrington
  24. The residents on Walton drag have been told different, unless it has changed in the last few weeks. My friends have never been happy with the event, right opposite their house but who listens, the creamfield help line is not a HELP line. They have have got the event so sod off.
  25. Is that one of the ones that was saved when the last labour administration despite all the local opposition shut all of the recreation centres??
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