kevofaz25 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Seems the French are stemming the flow of immigrants into UK but not getting much credit for their efforts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Outrageous Many have proper insurance and many don't or should I say they do not properly declare there ailments which invalidates their insurance. They do not tend to spend alot and as there health goes they become a burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Some very sweeping statements with no evidence to back them up if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I really can't see how you can compare some Iraqui or Afghan free loader turning up in the back of a truck at Dover, to a retired couple from the UK; selling up and moving to France or Spain. I mean regardless of whether they have health insurance; the British government are liable for some of their care as they will have paid their NI for 50 years and be entitled to help. Just because they now live abroad is no barrier. That is a benefit.....(lets see who spots any others though) of being in the EU; the right to retire where you want!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Clearly Kyje has descended into desperation, comparing ex-pats with "illegals". Has as been said, most will have health insurance, but some retain a UK address and return home for expensive treatment, having paid NI for years. As Baz rightly says, the sunami of "economic refugees" that are currently invading Europe on the back of lorries or in boats, are strangely finding their way to the good old UK - for a free handout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 No Evidence, its never stopped you Asperity The same goes of Obs every time I ask for some or prove him wrong he just comes out with more crap. How can any of you ask for evidence when none of you produce any of your own http://www.essentialhealthcare.co.uk/latest-news/costa-brits-to-lose-healthcare/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 Well they would say that wouldn't they LtKije? After all they are in the business of selling health insurance and what better way of doing it than by frightening people with scare stories (well scare headline in this case) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Sadly, tis you liberals that have your heads in the sand, and your back-sides in the air - so it's no wonder every ecomomic migrant want's to shaft us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 I keep saying it Obs evidence I bet you got the question wrong on the test about where most immigration comes from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Evidence?! Don't you watch TV news? The camps at Calais and Patras, the bodies being washed up in the Canaries and Malta! Tis you who are in denial, and such denial (in typically liberal fashion), will result in ever greater problems in the future. NB: Over 40% of London's population are now from ethnic minorities (in some Boroughs, no doubt - now the majority.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 You have slipped up Obs ethnic minorities As was stated in the test most of our immigration comes from the States, Canada and Australia but they are white no metion of them in your post slight colour bias in that last post. Is this your true colours until now cleverly hidden slipping in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The problem is Sgt; you are totally alone if you think that having 40% of the capitals population from ethnic backgrounds is a good thing. You may take the LibDem route of praising diversity and championing the cause, but if as Obs says that some areas now have a majority of ethinic citizens; then that is worrying It is worrying because if it can happen in one place; it can happen in others..... and when it starts to happen, you will see a surge in support for the BNP and far right partys because "ordinary" people get scared. Getting scared doesn't make someone a racist. Wanting a curb on this happening doesn't make someone a racist. Ordinary people respond in the only "legal" way they can these days and that is how Griffin and the other bloke got elected; because ordinary people want a stop to this open door immigration. You and your sort band about the "racist" word because it suits you to try and look like you are taking the moral high ground but the day will come in this country when the ordinary man in the street says enough is enough. Immigration over the years; from all countries, has added to this country but there comes a time when you can have too much of something and I think we passed that situation a few years back Shut the doors and pull down the shutters methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Merely stating a fact Kyje; most US/Canadian immigrants are employed in the City in highly skilled/paid jobs (no excuse in my book however); but lower down the food chain you will get a progressive increase in benefit claimants, and "illegals" (who can't claim but don't pay NI or tax) as bottom feeders. And just a scientific point on the nature of human evolution - you don't get polar bears on the equator (unless they've been transported there to a zoo!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The problem is Sgt; you are totally alone if you think that having 40% of the capitals population from ethnic backgrounds is a good thing I think you will find I did not say I thought it was a good thing Baz, I never expressed an opinion on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The problem is Sgt; you are totally alone if you think that having 40% of the capitals population from ethnic backgrounds is a good thing I think you will find I did not say I thought it was a good thing Baz, I never expressed an opinion on that OK, maybe I misquoted you.... what about the next bit of my post...... Why call everyone a racist just because they express a concern about immigration? It is the way of the liberal and nambys to do that isn't it? Call someone a racist rather than listen to their concerns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 They've been doing it for at least the last 20 years Baz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 We already know that most immigration into this country comes from Canada, America and Australia, My post was a direct reply to Observers post nothing more as he only seemed concerned about people from a different ethnic back ground ie different colour. And just a scientific point on the nature of human evolution - you don't get polar bears on the equator So Obs are you saying that the White people in the US and Canada and Australia should not be there either. People of a different colour skin were there first, evolution must have put them there for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 The science of ethnicity and evolution, is fairly simple: nature, through evolution, designs animals to suit their enviroment. In the case of humans, added melanine allows protection from the sun, thus the closer to the equator, the blacker the skin - so theoretically, we're all designed to operate an a latitudenal basis. It's estimated that, to change such features in order to adapt to a different latitude takes about 20,000 years of evolution. However, humans are the only animals that can alter and adapt to their enviroment through clothing, shelter and heating - thus we have spread to every corner of the earth. Now theoretically, the arguement would support everyone staying at their appropriate latitude - however, historical migrations have distorted and confounded such an idea, so we must accept the current reality, and wait 20,000 years or for inter-breeding to sort things out! Now, a completely different arguement, is the rational control of National demographics and over-population, by controlling current migrations which are economically motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Michael Jackson managed it in less than 40 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 So why bring up the Polar bear argument up if you yourself are going to discount it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Just to get things into perspective - as to what "nature" intended. Even Nick Griffin has had to admit, that un-doing history is "not do-able". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Seems the Brussels EU beaurocrats have taken pity on all those unfortunates trying to get to Europe from Africa in flimsy boats; so they're encouraging Member States to increase their quotas of assylum seeking immigrants - wonder where they'll head for, once they get into Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I understand the EU have ordered a supply of signs, UK This Way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Obs I can not find any info on your last post, can you give me the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Is that the one where each country get ?3,500 per head for admitting them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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