Lt Kije Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 This Country did not save Europe twice The Allies did British, Canadian, Free French,Poles and Americans and others There were more American troops involved in the liberation of France than British:wink: WW1 The battlefields of France were a stalemate before the Americans joined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Clearly little knowledge of history Kyje: WW2 was clearly won at the overwhelming human expense of the Soviet Union (I'll give you all the KIA figures if you want); the USSR engages over 75% of the German Army. Meanwhile, the British refusal to capitulate led by Churchill, allowed the USA to provide the overwhelming material resources to win the war, and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour ensured the (late) entry of the Yanks, which proved decisive. WW1 again, was sustained on the blood letting on the Eastern Front, and when Russia dropped out of the war in 1917, it allowed the Germans to switch resources against the British and French, unfortunately for them, this coincided with the deployment of US forces. So - British stubborness and determination, Russian blood and American material resources - thus the result was a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Obs I agree with your post, please read my post again. I said most of the troops that liberated France were American. and there numbers made the differance in the first World War. we could not have done it with out them was the point I was making. Reading Baz's post would make anyone think the British alone saved Europe. Without the Americans we could not have won we simply did not have the man power or the material resources. Feel free to test me on the History of any time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Your correct in saying "we" (as in Britain and the USA) could not have won; however, there is no doubt in my mind, that the Soviets would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Daily Mail. "Migrants will win fast-track passports if they stand on picket lines or knock on doors asking people to vote Labour, it emerged last night. The Home Office says trade union activism and political canvassing should count towards the planned new system of 'earned citizenship'. Migrants who complete 50 hours of voluntary work will be entitled to receive British citizenship after six years - two years earlier than if they do nothing. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Daily Mail. "Migrants will win fast-track passports if they stand on picket lines or knock on doors asking people to vote Labour, it emerged last night. The Home Office says trade union activism and political canvassing should count towards the planned new system of 'earned citizenship'. Migrants who complete 50 hours of voluntary work will be entitled to receive British citizenship after six years - two years earlier than if they do nothing. " And if that is true then Brown and his stasi are more of a threat to this country than the BNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Maybe they need immigrants to do door to door canvassing for them as there was a certain lack of labour candidates pre euro election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Think they need the immigrants to vote for them! Talk about irresponsible Government - yer couldn't make it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Don't tell me you believe whats printed in the Mail A Daily Sport headline is more likely to be truthful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Make your mind up Kyje; in the other post your agreeing with Peter that the Media control events - presumably that includes "the Mail" - and they're not even elected?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 I think you should to remember where you said you got your media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 So on the basis that all media is of doubtfull objectivity and seeks to guide public opinion with bias reporting; perhaps we could stick to what Party Manifestos actually claim in terms of policy, rather than gossip about the personal views or alleged utterances of individuals?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 They are even worse except the Liberal one Welcome to my World the press in the country is owned by a few people who appoint editors and then push there agenda, If it was up to me you would only be allowed to own one national paper. To be fair Obs things might not change for me being Pro European on the news front but it would stop a few people pushing there agenda. Make papers more independent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Newspapers exist to make a profit, they print what sells, so blame those who read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 True Observer And I do blame you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 except the Liberal one Do they bother with a manifesto, hardly seems worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 That's strange Kyje, as I've never read a newspaper for decades! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 You read Yes you did mention you got your media and news from other souses I never new Viz had so much in it Paul I walked straight into that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Pity your not well read - perhaps the quality of your arguements would improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Whats your excuse not enough been transferred into braille for you, or has all your dislike of foreigners and people of another colour just made you blinkered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Again two incorrect assumptions: I don't dislike foreigners, and prefer their company when visiting their homelands - I just don't accept them over here as permanent settlers. Niether do I hate people with other skin colours - I spend a considerable amount of money each year trying to look like them - so your again well wide of the mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I don't think so Obs, Your trying to come across as the friendly face of a facist party, Its not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Not trying to "come across" as anything - merely a fact: just doesn't fit into your steriotype though, does it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 steriotype Did you mean Stereotype I know Obs it was a typo, I do them all the time Just to be sure you fit into my stereotype do you wear your jack boots in bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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