observer Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Is it time we afforded anonymity to both accused and accusers involved in sex offence allegations? Is it time the CPS stopped bringing cases to court, which amount to one person's word against another, without any forensic physical evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think that would be a good idea Obs considering, even when people are found or better still proved not guilty ,that a certain amount of mud will stick.I think it would also be a good idea that alleged victims should be exposed & prosecuted for crying wolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 On this topic, it has been said that the Crown Prosecution service are paronoid and suffering from Savillemania and treating every high profile person connected with the media that has had accusations regarding crimes of a sexual nature pointed at them by automatically prosecuting them, people such as Bill Roache will have a label around his neck for the remainder of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 On this topic, it has been said that the Crown Prosecution service are paronoid and suffering from Savillemania and treating every high profile person connected with the media that has had accusations regarding crimes of a sexual nature pointed at them by automatically prosecuting them, people such as Bill Roache will have a label around his neck for the remainder of their lives. Reminds me of America in the 50's and the paranoia created by Sen. McCarthy... open season on any celebrities or anyone else come to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 There is also a touch of, "He is in Corrie he must be innocent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 The reason the CPS moved this to court, is that there were several accusers; but alas NO collaborating or forensic evidence, in what can only be a "cold case". The fact that "celebs" are in the public eye, can always spark resentment in some, and the publicity can create a bandwagon. Therefore, anonymity for all, can be the only route to fairness and justice - otherwise we're merely experiencing a witch-hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I’m not so sure about all this talk about Ken Barlow getting off lightly just because he’s a Correy star. The way I see it is that most men in their younger years tend to sow wild oats whenever the opportunity arises, it’s all just part of human nature. I guess that being famous creates more opportunities but the question is, did Ken Barlow become famous to attract women or was it his good looks and fame that attracted women to him? Either way, having sex isn’t a crime but proving whether it was consensual or not, fifty years after the event is impossible. He probably had more sex than I’ve had hot dinners but if he couldn’t remember the women and three’s no way of proving anything, the only right decision must be to acquit him.Something just dosn't feel right to me about all the celebs being dragged through the courts accused of historic sex offences and it's becoming a bit like the witch trials or what happened in the states with communism. Anyway enough heavy stuff, I need to lighten up cos it's nearly beer time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 When someone who is accused of such a crime are found to be innocent; the women who accused them should then be named.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Perhaps he could now take civil action against his accusers, which could bring them out of the shadows - but I guess he's had enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 That's never going to happen because in the same way that they couldn't prove historic rape alegations, they're never going to be able to prove the women involved were lieing. And as for naming them, well again what's the point because they haven't actually comitted a crime or been found guilty of anything and as the old saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right! Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Three lefts do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 Think he would have to sue for defamation Bill; but I agree, hard to prove - and throwing more of the brown stuff around would ensure it sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I was reading a news court report on the case a couple of weeks ago where one of the "victims" stated that she had been warned about Bill Roache's philandering ways by another male cast member. Strangely enough , the actor mentioned didn't join the cast till at least 5 years after the alleged date of the last alleged assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 When someone who is accused of such a crime are found to be innocent; the women who accused them should then be named.... Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 When there is a tariff system in place which documents the kind of payments that someone can expect to receive as a result of sexual assault, the temptation must surely be there to "jump on the bandwagon"; especially when making accusations against named celebrities that the accuser says happened over 30 or 40 years ago. The whole thing comes down to a "your word against theirs" argument but if they win, it is a good payday. Yes, some of these accusations may well be true, but I can't help wondering why someone would wait until they are in their 60's before making such accusations (as happened in the Bill Roache case). If they had happened and only on a couple of occasions, why would they not come forward??? It's not like the named celebrity can do them any harm at that age surely? Check out page 65 onwards http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/victims-and-witnesses/cic-a/am-i-eligible/criminal-injuries-comp-scheme-2012.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Agree Baz; such alleged crimes should be reported at the time they occure; when forensic and other evidence, can provide a meaningfull prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 DLT - NOT GUILTY. Time the CPS Directors were charged with malicious prosecutions and sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 DLT Not guilty..... DLT.... reputation in tatters DLT.... Had to sell house to fund defence (as he said today; not all "famous" people have overflowing bank accounts) Accusers.... away scot free with false allegations. No come backs and no redress.... They should be made to pay back whatever money it has cost the accused for his defence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Agree Baz; the fact that the CPS proceeded with 40 year old allegations (trivial in the case of DLT); without any solid forensic or witness evidence, merely the word of a complainant; amounts to nothing more than a modern day witch hunt - time the Police were directed to the really important crimes, like smoking in cars carrying kids ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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