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There is a new system of enforcing parking charges in Warrington Hospital now, aparently cameras log you coming in and out so it is not possible to share a ticket anymore.

 

Also people with blue badges have to pay now!

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They've  changed it so you can park for free for 30 mins though....apparently for pickups, drops offs and quick visits.  How do you know that you wont be delayed 5 or 10 mins on your 'quick visit' though?

When I had to take the elderly mother-in-law and walk her into the relevant department I paid the full £3 just incase she walked slow or there was a delay at the reception.  Sods law I was back out to my car in 25 mins.
I'm sure I didn't have to put my reg details in the machine though unless they hadn't been changed then or maybe I just can't remember doing it as she sometimes stresses me out  :lol: 

Where are the number plate recognition camera as I sometimes drive through the hospital grounds as a short cut if the traffic is bad  :oops: 
 

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Been a regular visitor at the end of last year for physio. You have to put your reg into the machine. Cameras are at the entrance quite high up. Check out street view on lovely lane and you can zoom in and see them.

 

I wish they charged a bit better. A lot of trips are over 30 mins but raerly make the hour. Despite this £3 and thats it. Whiston give 1 hour free and charge hourly after that. Miles better.

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The new charge seems to be for entering the hospital grounds.

 

I have to take a relative into the hospital for appointments on the 15 and 16 of January to see specialists, anticoagulant clinics every two weeks or so, specialists 6 and 10 of February, gets expensive and we have been told there are no discounts as seeing a specialist is not classed as treatment

 

If the clinics could run to time then that would be ok, but it can take 20 minutes to find a space to park in the hospital

 

In my view there should be lower flat fee of say a £1 and get rid of the admin of providing various discount schemes

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Or you could always find a sympathetic person who will let you use their parking permit. (as long as they don't charge like one enterprising resident did) (and no it wasn't me before you ask) mind you finding a parking spot round here is difficult enough as it is. this morning ended up parking in next  street and i had only been out half an hour.

 

if they charged £1 per hour it would be better but then you would still not know how long you would be. Take my mum there on a regular basis for various things. if it is her athriris injection she can be in and out before i have had time to turn the car round. if it is the eye clinic it can be anything from half an hour to three hours. fortunately i only live over the road so tend to drop her off and then wait for the phone call to pick her up again.

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Having just looked at their website to see how the new system works it says you can either pay when you arrive or when you are leaving now so they could easily change it to a per hour charge if they wanted too.  I guess that also means that you don't have to pay prior to your 30 mins free parking for fear of possibly going over it. 

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So if you are a dishonest person you could get away without paying. If you can pay for your parking any time before you leave then what is to stop you just leaving without paying?

 

It states that you will be issued with a fixed penalty notice. Is this sent through the post as they can't issue it before you leave as you could claim that you are just going to the machine to pay for your parking.

 

note that they also offer a range of concessions for those who have to attend over an extended period of weeks. might be worth looking into that one adrian may save you some money.

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So if you are a dishonest person you could get away without paying. If you can pay for your parking any time before you leave then what is to stop you just leaving without paying?

The way I understood it was that the camera's record your reg when you enter and again when you leave and the new payment machines require you to enter your registration for your ticket.  So I'm guessing if the records on two don't match and you haven't paid then you get sent something. 

 

It states that you will be issued with a fixed penalty notice. Is this sent through the post as they can't issue it before you leave as you could claim that you are just going to the machine to pay for your parking.

 

Mmm... thinking about it though I'm sure that I remember something from one of the other topics ages ago which said parking enforcement companies can't just routinely contact the DVLA for detail of the owner and address of a car. I'll look back on the old topic.... might be wrong

 

note that they also offer a range of concessions for those who have to attend over an extended period of weeks. might be worth looking into that one adrian may save you some money.

I wonder how many people are aware of that and there's quite a big saving to be made and easy to do too from what the website says.

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Its not the way the NHS should be treating people.  There is no way anyone can plan how long to pay for because appointments can overrun and the clinics I have been to never, ever keep to time.  I have spent two hours waiting in clinics on occasions.  I'm pleased a friend told me I could have routine blood tests at Orford Hub.  Very few queues and free parking!

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There's a bus stop right outside the hospital. No need to pay for parking at all.

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Asp.... there may well be a bus stop outside the hospital but if someone is elderly, ill or even visiting getting a bus there and back is not particularly easy and if you are a paying passenger quite expensive too.

 

For me to get to the hospital by bus I'd have to walk over 1/2 mile to the bus stop and then one bus into town and another out to the hospital and the same back.  Not ideal and I;m sure it's the same for a lot of people.

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Interesting to note that on the website it says you can pay for your parking after you have finished your visit.

 

The parking signs at the hospital say that you will recieve a ticket if you are not displaying a valid pay and display ticket.

 

So if you want to pay for parking after your visit you will get a ticket as you would not have a valid pay and display ticket. sounds like a good money spinner right there.

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Ooh wow! Touched a few nerves have I? No bus stop outside your house? Complain to the council! A half mile walk Dizzy? I bet you walk your dog further than that every day. A Day Rover ticket will probably get you to and from the hospital cheaper than the parking charge/petrol/hassle. Plus a wee bit of exercise thrown in. OK I admit it isn't the solution for the infirm, but not everybody doing the complaining is in that category. Perhaps if there wasn't such a demand for parking spaces the hospital wouldn't need to charge. Supply and demand etc.

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Is it possible to give your number plates a pixcillated appearance to avoid paying ? Or an appropriately placed handful of mud even.

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Good thinking Davy.... we could all carry some round in our cars in tupperware tubs :lol:

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I was merely using myself as an example for people traveling from this neck of the woods :wink:  Anyway no big deal for me really as if I was going to an appointment on my own and didn't feel 'ill' I'd just park on Green Street and walk across to the hospital :D

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Ooh wow! Touched a few nerves have I? No bus stop outside your house? Complain to the council! A half mile walk Dizzy? I bet you walk your dog further than that every day. A Day Rover ticket will probably get you to and from the hospital cheaper than the parking charge/petrol/hassle. Plus a wee bit of exercise thrown in. OK I admit it isn't the solution for the infirm, but not everybody doing the complaining is in that category. Perhaps if there wasn't such a demand for parking spaces the hospital wouldn't need to charge. Supply and demand etc.

 

But non of us go to hospital for pleasure, and £3 is to high considering that the visiting times (which are stupid times) are just one hour long (to short) and most consultations are 15, 20 minutes maybe.

 

The hospital also charges far to much for the TV service, on the wards. They will tell you they get nothing from the contractor but it is they who agreed the terms.

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Most consultation times may be 15 - 20 minutes but it usually the wait due to the consultant running late that takes up the time.

 

yesterday dropped mum off at twenty to two for a ten to two appointmemnt. she was seen by the consultant at twenty to three. fifty minutes after her supposed appointment time. she was in there ten minutes so a total of an hour. all told.

 

if it is the eye clinic she has to go to then it can be anything from twenty minutes to threer hours depending on what they have to do. Luckily I live over the road from the hospital but anybody who has to trabel any distance would have had top park for that indeterminate length of time.

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Does anyone know precisely how this system works and what happens if you don't pay?   Didn't see a camera at the rear entrance today (although there may be one); and didn't notice many cars with parking tickets.

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You do not need to display your ticket any more!

 

There are cameras at the back.

 

I took a relative to get a 24 heart monitor fitted just before Christmas, stuck the blue badge in the window not knowing parking changed had been brought in. I had no parking fine yet!

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 considering that the visiting times (which are stupid times) are just one hour long (to short) and most consultations are 15, 20 minutes maybe.

 

Well maybe you would like them to bring in 24 hour visiting... maybe you could take your kids in at 4 am then or at whatever time suits you rather than at the times stipulated by the hospital.... maybe they should be made to fit in treatment, doctors rounds, operations, meal times etc. to suit your busy schedule rather than their obviously selfish reasons

 

Oh and don't worry about the other sick people in the ward, I'm sure they'll love little johnny moaning that he's bored at 8am in the morning.

 

If you want 24 hour visiting, go private and pay for the privilege

 

The hospital also charges far to much for the TV service, on the wards. They will tell you they get nothing from the contractor but it is they who agreed the terms.

 

The original contractor that supplied the equipment and installed it in the hospital went bust. The hospital did not pay anything towards the kit or the service they provided. The rights were bought by another company from the receiver... the hospital could have bought them but didn't. It didn't seem too expensive to me the last time I had to buy some for my mum a few years ago and that included movies, internet and normal TV... plus the kit takes some maintenance to keep all the systems running

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Visiting times are a real pain for the staff at the hospital, some visitors even think it clever to sneak in booze for seriously ill people. They can be abusive and loud and basically a pain in the backside. They sit on beds and are no doubt at least partly responsible for the spread of infections.

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I have nothing but praise for our hospital whenever I have had appointments I have been seen to with the minimum waiting time and fuss, received excellent and courteous treatment from consultants, we all tend to think we are the most important patients there and forget the stress and long hours that the staff work, without these dedicated people a large number of us wouldn't be alive today.

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Well maybe you would like them to bring in 24 hour visiting... maybe you could take your kids in at 4 am then or at whatever time suits you rather than at the times stipulated by the hospital.... maybe they should be made to fit in treatment, doctors rounds, operations, meal times etc. to suit your busy schedule rather than their obviously selfish reasons

 

Oh and don't worry about the other sick people in the ward, I'm sure they'll love little johnny moaning that he's bored at 8am in the morning.

 

If you want 24 hour visiting, go private and pay for the privilege

 

 

The original contractor that supplied the equipment and installed it in the hospital went bust. The hospital did not pay anything towards the kit or the service they provided. The rights were bought by another company from the receiver... the hospital could have bought them but didn't. It didn't seem too expensive to me the last time I had to buy some for my mum a few years ago and that included movies, internet and normal TV... plus the kit takes some maintenance to keep all the systems running

 

Oh get of your high horse Bazj! The visiting times are of one hour at  15.00 and one hour at 18.00 is not exactly generous when the Chester hospital can manage to have visiting hours from 11 am until 7.30 so does Ellesmere and Port Royal Liverpool can manage 14;00 - 16:00 and then 18.00 - 20:00, Wythenshaw has a visiting time from 2.30 to 8.00 with an hours break to serve meals if  remember  correctly, They are not private

 

Yes I do have a busy scheduled, some weeks more so then others and the visiting times are unreasonably short and finish to early. The hospital is a public service not a privet business.

 

Obviously some people are sat on their ass all day able to go to any time, others can't.

 

And as for the TV, so you get a slow, arkward internet, but the equipment is old and out of date and some people do not need phones, internet, movies or sport

 

 

 

Visiting times are a real pain for the staff at the hospital, some visitors even think it clever to sneak in booze for seriously ill people. They can be abusive and loud and basically a pain in the backside. They sit on beds and are no doubt at least partly responsible for the spread of infections.

 

There are aspects of most peoples job that are a pain in the neck, Are you suggesting there should be no visiting times?

 

I have nothing but praise for our hospital whenever I have had appointments I have been seen to with the minimum waiting time and fuss, received excellent and courteous treatment from consultants, we all tend to think we are the most important patients there and forget the stress and long hours that the staff work, without these dedicated people a large number of us wouldn't be alive today.

 

I agree with you, but sometimes it can be highly inefficient and if your waiting times have been minimum you are lucky.

 

But the current parking arrangements are an example. Just charge everyone a £1 for each visit instead of having bureaucratic exemptions and situations were you can pay once and come back again.

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