observer Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 This new toll bridge at Widnes; seems the Council are seeking toll concessions for Warringtonians. Not sure of the practicality of implimenting that one; but won't any charge encourage folk to use Bridge Foot instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Having read the news strories about the new proposed bridge over the Mersey for months now and what ever the toll cost might or not be, I don't think I will worry too much, as I have no doubt it will take at least 20 years to build and by that time the way things are going there will be nobody working to own car or afford cars, only the rich, so let them pay the toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Yep... and we all know what Bridge foot is like ... CONGESTED ! Full story here http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/9332/1/Council-to-bid-for-reduced-bridge-tolls/Page1.html which details the suggestion of a reduced charge for Warrington residents as a way of 'compensation' for the problems it will cause on our roads ....... .... Bazj has already commented on the news page and so have I... maybe everyone else should too OK so they are not going to scrap the idea but at least sort out Warringtons road infrastructure and Bridge Foot chaos FIRST Why on earth have WBC supported a toll bridge when they themselves KNOW and ACKNOWLEDGE that it will definately increase daily congestion on Warrington's roads. Our roads are already a nightmare at peak times with gridlock becoming the norm. WHY havent WBC looked into resolving the traffic problems we already have rather than supporting a scheme which will make it even worse. Compensation by way of a reduced toll.... no thanks... they should be PAYING LOCAL DRIVERS for having to put up will it all as we have no choice but to drive on the roads round here.. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 The point of building this new bridge has never been to reduce congestion locally but to develop the NETA corridor and the resultant mass flow of traffic from Eastern Europe will turn the whole of Warrington/Runcorn into one totally congested hell-hole. But that could be classed as mere inconvenience when compared to the far more dire effects of the massive increased pollution in an area that has already the highest rate of cardio-vascular disease - not just in Europe - but in the world!!! Add this to their great plans to develop the chemical and nuclear industry in this area and you will realise that you have far more to worry about than wasted time in traffic jams!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Wasn't Widnes noted for it's "chemical" industry in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 In the past maybe Obs - not any more. Now it's just a big lorry park. The chemical industry in Widnes died 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 The company I worked for (ICI) had a factory in Widnes along with many other chemical producing companies and in it's heyday you could smell Widnes long before you got there but as Wolfie says most have shutdown, we employed a lot of lads & lasses from the town and they the were salt of the earth, hard working, concencious and nice people to socialise with but in those days if you really wanted to upset any of them just ask if they were born in Liverpool talk about 'light the touch paper and retire immediately' I think the problem was that Liverpool had almost linked with Widnes and that was not desirable to any true Widnesian, I'm sure it is probably still the same. I must admit walking through Warrington town centre the scouse dialect is very apparent nowadays so much so that you could think you were in Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 The company I worked for (ICI) had a factory in Widnes along with many other chemical producing companies and in it's heyday you could smell Widnes long before you got there but as Wolfie says most have shutdown, we employed a lot of lads & lasses from the town and they the were salt of the earth, hard working, concencious and nice people to socialise with but in those days if you really wanted to upset any of them just ask if they were born in Liverpool talk about 'light the touch paper and retire immediately' I think the problem was that Liverpool had almost linked with Widnes and that was not desirable to any true Widnesian, I'm sure it is probably still the same. I must admit walking through Warrington town centre the scouse dialect is very apparent nowadays so much so that you could think you were in Liverpool. Ask the scousers now about Liverpool and most of them have never been there, never mind being born there, but the thick plastic scouse accent is worse than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Wow Wolfie in have a stupid pop at Scousers shocker. Who'd a thunk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yes Wolfie, but if Sha is right, they'll be back to wearing gas masks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Don't think gas masks will be of much use. http://www.publictenders.net/tender/73707 Anyone got any idea exactly where it's going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 And so will we if by the sounds of it Have you read about the NETA Corridor, Atlantic Gatweay and everything else that is in the pipelines for round here Obs that we are not meant to understand or be expected to be interested in Of course you have eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yes Wolfie, but if Sha is right, they'll be back to wearing gas masks again! Don't think so Obs, the chemical industry in Widnes is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Nothing to stop it being reborn though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 That would imply that Sha is wrong then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Don't think gas masks will be of much use. http://www.publictenders.net/tender/73707 Anyone got any idea exactly where it's going? I worked in Hinton House H420.... nowt to do with me though cos I left years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 No idea what a nuclear power station has got to do with the chemical industry or Widnes, but the areas where chemical plants stood in Widnes have all now been redeveloped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yes, mostly with scouse overspill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yes, mostly with scouse overspill. Thought that was Sankey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 And Penketh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 As Ked Dodd once remarked "Widnes - the only town that grows brown daffodils". But, seriously, the air became far less polluted a 100 years on from the latter part of the 19th century when hundreds of cattle and trees on Frodsham marshes perished during large scale expansion of unregulated chemical industries. The worst smells post WW2 came from Fisons and ICI artificial fertilizer plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 The worst smells post WW2 came from Fisons and ICI artificial fertilizer plants. Both of which have shut down. Although the worst smell by far was from a company called W J Bush which has also shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 So all this industry shut down and the local council can still offer free parking and a good firework display!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Makes you think eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 No idea what a nuclear power station has got to do with the chemical industry or Widnes, but the areas where chemical plants stood in Widnes have all now been redeveloped. The only links I see between a nuclear power station and the chemical industry are that both produce masses of dangerous waste and neither would be particularly welcome positioned directly on your doorstep!!! " .............the areas where chemical plants stood in Widnes have all now been redeveloped. Think you may have got it in one there Wolfie! there's no available space for either in Widnes.........try looking closer to home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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