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Seems the CIA believe the covid virus escaped from a Wuhan Lab, when two operatives were hospitalised.  If so, it would suggest that the slow initial Chinese response and their attempt to cover the incident up, played a large part in the development of the global pandemic.    If true, what should be done about it ?     😷

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Unless they hold their hands up and admit it came from there, which they’re never going to do, that will remain little more than another conspiracy theory. Even if it could be proved, which after coming up to nearly three years and the best people carrying out investigations, it would be even harder to prove it was deliberate.

What do we do about it? Absolutely nothing so the only thing we can do is to talk about it in the pub and anyone who feels that strongly about it might want to give the Chinese chippy a miss for a while. That’ll teach them not to play with viruses.

 

Bill 😊

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Yes Bill; but the dark side to this, is to ask why labs throughout the world are deliberately creating viruses ?   Whilst some of it may have a medicinal basis, I would suggest that biological warfare is becoming the first option for the military, as an attack is hard to identify and prove.  😷

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1 hour ago, Observer II said:

Yes Bill; but the dark side to this, is to ask why labs throughout the world are deliberately creating viruses ?   Whilst some of it may have a medicinal basis, I would suggest that biological warfare is becoming the first option for the military, as an attack is hard to identify and prove.  😷

Not a new thought Why Do Exceptionally Dangerous Gain-of-Function Experiments in Influenza? - PubMed (nih.gov)

Biological weapons using viruses are a stupid idea because of the escape mutation problem. Every TV viewer knows that no evil mastermind launches a weapon without a 100% effective antidote for his henchmen.

If you want to understand more try reading this The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan? - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (thebulletin.org) From the purveyors of the famous Doomsday clock!

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Seems your trying to be a little too clever now.   The idea behind biological warfare, is to produce a virus, for which you also develop a vaccine, in order to protect your own population prior to releasing it on your enemies.  It's by far the best option in the NBC armoury, as an attack can't be immediately identified as such and there is no collateral damage to buildings or equipment.    As such, it it also the best option for terrorist organisations, and therefor something that pre=planning should be in place to guard against.    😷

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I live in Paddington Obs not the dark side so for me this remains something akin to an alien abduction theory. You can either believe or not but without any concrete proof either way, it remains just a theory. There are labs across the world doing virus research but the crazy mad scientist intent on creating bugs that wipe out certain sections of the population only exist in low budget TV films.

 

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13 minutes ago, Observer II said:

Seems your trying to be a little too clever now.   The idea behind biological warfare, is to produce a virus, for which you also develop a vaccine, in order to protect your own population prior to releasing it on your enemies.  It's by far the best option in the NBC armoury, as an attack can't be immediately identified as such and there is no collateral damage to buildings or equipment.    As such, it it also the best option for terrorist organisations, and therefor something that pre=planning should be in place to guard against.    😷

Like I said the problem is that the vaccine you posit may not work against the inevitable variants and it can bounce back at bit the perpetrator. An extraordinarily stupid weapon to choose as a terrorist organisation has absolutely no chance of not being discovered when testing a vaccine. Limited testing would only work on clones - the whole theory is science fiction garbage.

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3 minutes ago, Observer II said:

Nope, there is an Island off the coat of Scotland, which has remained off limits since 1940; when Churchill sanctioned smallpox usage, as a possible use against Germany.  Desperate times conjour up desperate solutions.   😷

Are you sure that you don't mean Gruinard where they released Anthrax, it was cleaned in 1986 and declared safe with no cases in the test flock of sheep on the island since 2007. Smallpox would have been a strange choice given that smallpox was the very first disease against which vaccination was tried.

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Yes it was anthrax, but my point still stands - that desperate Govs will resort to ever more desperate solutions to win a war.   😷     As most modern terrorist organisations prefer suicide as a form of attack, infecting their agents as spreaders wouldn't seem any more stupid than wearing a suicide vest.   😷   As we.ve seen over the past two years, Western Democracies are easy targets for such an attack.   😷

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