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He was released after serving his sentence and put under surveillance.

This meant that the response time was a lot quicker than it would have been under normal circumstances.

Minimum sentence for terrorist acts should be 50 years solitary confinement with no visitors, no access to any outside sources and food shoved under the door via a slot.

Never happen of course.

 

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Then in fifty years when they get out, they'd probably be even more determined to seek greater revenge and become a martyr.  

Most rules for dealing with crime in this country were made well before Islamic terrorism was even thought of and as such, are simply not applicable. If the ultimate punishment is death, then that's exactly what these people are looking to achieve, and they're not bothered whether that occurs in jail or on the streets, What's needed is a completely different type of punishment that would probably break every rule in the book by specifically targeting Islamic extremism, but it'll never happen in this country because we're too bloody civilised.

 

Bill :)

  

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If all these terrorists who are up for release are to receive close surveillance it will be more costly & open to failure than a maximum security jail for sympathisers. Time to put security & safety of law abiding citizens first & dish out appropriate sentences for future terrorist offences.

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As I have said in another thread one must remember that the terrorist has a different value system to the rest of us. The penchant for fake bomb belts is of course driven by the wish to be martyred and therefore ascending directly to paradise. Therefore the punishment that would make society safe is to make entering paradise impossible for the culprit. Summary execution is exactly what the culprit wants so should clearly be denied if at all possible. Instead the punishment needs careful design and there needs to be a different approach to rehabilitating terrorists and one of the most obvious and non-violent ways is not permitted under the Convention on Human Rights with its assertion of freedom of religion.

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But why should we even attempt to try and rehabilitate these people. To my way of thinking, we shouldn’t be incurring any of the huge costs keeping these people locked up for long periods or for endless police surveillance. We need a deterrent so powerful that it’ll stop them even considering becoming a terrorist in the first place, and that way everyone’s a winner.

Some say deport them but that doesn’t work given any Tom, Dick and Mohammed can sneak back into this country and that’s assuming they don’t already have a UK passport. What should be done is poor shame on the immediate family, even though they would claim to be innocent and had no idea their kids were terrorists. Ideally deport the family but If we can’t due to our soft rules, then at least make it known that they’re not welcome because no potential terrorist would want to exit this life with their family in a mess of their making.

Draconian it may be but extreme circumstances calls for extreme measures.

 

Bill :)

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The Chinese seems to have an answer - re-education.    In camps, where the only meal available is a full English breakfast, pork chops (imported from China) for dinner and pigs trotters for tea.  😉    Apparently there are around 20,000 suspects either in prison, converting other prisoners or on watch lists.  It would be impossible both financially and physically to put them all under survellance.  Prison risks conversion of other prisoners, unless these nutters are kept in isolation.  Suicide by Police response maybe what they want, so let them have it, and the rest of humanity can live in peace.

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but in permanent solitary confinement they cannot convert anybody.

16 hours ago, Bill said:

Then in fifty years when they get out, they'd probably be even more determined to seek greater revenge and become a martyr.  

I never mentioned letting them out after they had served their sentence. At that point they would be vanished.

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