Observer II Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 Having seen the light at the end of the tunnel on Brexit, we now have the constant drone of the SNP over Independence. Quite rightly, the Gov insist that the matter was decided by a "once in a generation" referendum in 2014, which voted to remain in the UK. But, Mz Krankie, instead of getting down to tackle the job of devolved political management, which isn't going too well; has returned to her one trick pony of independence. They conflate the idea of elections and referendums with democracy, to the point where they could argue for regular referendums, no doubt to the point where they get the answer they want, bit like their remainer chums in England. They should look at their own history, in which THEIR Parliament agreed to the Union with England, basically because they were bankrupt - no doubt, if they did get independence, this would be repeated in due course, when English subsidies dried up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 But if they get independence they can join the EU and apply for their funding. At least that is what the mindset seems to be. They only want independence from the English, which will be a great saving for us straight away. 47 MP's gone at a stroke with associated secretaries, office staff assigned to them, expenses and second home and travel allowances. Fewer expensive legal challenges through the high courts. As an added bonus no more haggis in the shops..🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Evil Sid said: But if they get independence they can join the EU and apply for their funding. At least that is what the mindset seems to be. They only want independence from the English, which will be a great saving for us straight away. 47 MP's gone at a stroke with associated secretaries, office staff assigned to them, expenses and second home and travel allowances. Fewer expensive legal challenges through the high courts. As an added bonus no more haggis in the shops..🤣 And all Remainers Sid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 I don't know if it is still on the statute books ,but i wonder if "Dirk money" will come back. Apparently, it was danger money for people venturing into Scotland & having to deal with Border Reivers & other Scottish brigands . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 It was changed to the Barnett Formula, where they get paid by the English taxpayers ! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Evil Sid said: But if they get independence they can join the EU and apply for their funding. At least that is what the mindset seems to be. They only want independence from the English, which will be a great saving for us straight away. 47 MP's gone at a stroke with associated secretaries, office staff assigned to them, expenses and second home and travel allowances. Fewer expensive legal challenges through the high courts. As an added bonus no more haggis in the shops..🤣 I like Haggis (and whisky) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 Maybe the SNP should be told they can have their vote. However if the Shetland Islands vote to stay in the UK then the Shetland Island (and most of the oil reserves) would remain part of the UK. The Shetland Islands are many miles away from Scottish mainland and never used to be part of Scotland, they have never voted SNP either. As Nicola Sturgeon and her party are such believers in democracy they would no doubt agree. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 What the SNP appear to want, like the Remoaners in England, is a Neverendum; continued until they get the decision they want. The evidence suggests they can't even manage the devolved powers they already have, with Education and Health taking a dive under their stewardship. Whilst in principle, the idea of devolution was good imo; providing a structure for the dispersal of funding support throughout the UK; which should have included the English Regions and countered the poverty the North and Midlands; sadly Prescott didn't impose that option, leaving it to be hijacked by Nationalists. Yorkshire for example has a larger population than Scotland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 8:10 AM, Evil Sid said: But if they get independence they can join the EU and apply for their funding. At least that is what the mindset seems to be. They only want independence from the English, which will be a great saving for us straight away. 47 MP's gone at a stroke with associated secretaries, office staff assigned to them, expenses and second home and travel allowances. Fewer expensive legal challenges through the high courts. As an added bonus no more haggis in the shops..🤣 I like haggis actually, but chacun a son goute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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