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That's a nice little Brexit you have there. Shame if anything happened to it.......................................

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/09/07/michel-barnier-concedes-brexit-bill-could-linked-uk-eu-trade/

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Surely this is the crux of the issue:  we've been the second highest net contributor into the EU for 40 years,  our absence will mean a 20% deficit in their budget (a budget that's never been signed off by auditors),  so they want to drain the last drops of milk from their UK cash cow.  At the end of the day, I'm sure we could buy a trade access deal ,  but that would destroy the whole point of leaving in the first place.  

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No, not even during "the troubles". There was enhanced police and army surveillance and identity checks on main border crossing roads, and many minor crossing roads were blocked. But this was for security purposes not for trade control.

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There was the famous case of the travel sick cattle being checked through border checkpoints & then returning to their point of origin across the border on open roads to defraud the CAP grant system. After their transit seals had been changed off they went again.

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Well it appears the politicians have turned Brexit into a complete dog's dinner, with their Party and Remoaner antics.  As I recall the referendum ballot form, the choice was to LEAVE or REMAIN,  nothing on it about "a deal".   Now, our weak kneed MPs are in a panic about a no deal Brexit,  with some talking about cancelling article 50 and returning to the EU fold.  But, as some EU Mandarins are now claiming, rightly imo; this would be treated as a new application, with the loss of our rebate and the possibility of a commitment to adopting the Euro; so even worse than before.  The straw being grasped by the PM, to continue with membership of the customs union, denying any right to make seperate trade deals, still within the jurisdiction of the ECJ , would keep us in the EU in all but name, but without any political influence over it.   So, time for the politicians to grow a pair, and prepare to crash out, with no deal, no payment and if necessary a hard border in Ireland.     

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Seems this Irish border issue is a complete red herring:  listening to a DUP politician, he said, that even during the troubles, it was impossible to completely seal off the border and currently, differing VAT rates etc are still dealt with by customs.  So, perhaps HMG can now honour the referendum decision and LEAVE, there was no mention of "a deal" on the ballot form, so they can forget it.

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