Gary Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Is it just me or are the part-time traffic lights on the roundabout on Midland way at the back of Cockhedge the biggest waste of space of all time? Every time the lights are switched on it causes traffic chaos at busy times! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 This has been discussed many times on here Gary; yes you are correct, they are terrible and typical of WBC's traffic management system.....useless. If we have as many secret visits by councillors on here as you would have us believe, they certainly aren't listening to what has been said about them over the past few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 We are getting another lot on Winwick road when the new entrance to the Alban opens. The new development on Fordton will only clog those lights up further as well. I was only thinking the other day, Widnes, St Helens and the T Centre have only 2 sets of lights from the nearest motorway to parking in the town. Anyone want to work out Warrington from the M62 or M56? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Think they're being controlled by someone via CCTV; as the other day they were in use, then switched off, then in use etc; within minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 This has been discussed many times on here Gary; yes you are correct, they are terrible and typical of WBC's traffic management system.....useless. If we have as many secret visits by councillors on here as you would have us believe, they certainly aren't listening to what has been said about them over the past few years I realise it has been discussed many times - but if we keep raising the issue hopefully one day someone int he corridors of power might actually take notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 What and admit they were wrong and made a cockhedge up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Well next time you are in Downing Street.... why don't you 'av a word! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dizzy Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Love it Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Around twelve sets of lights from the M62 island at winwick travelling down winwick road turn to go into town at side of the rodney past the bus station and ending up at the short stay car park at cockhedge if you count pedestrian crossings as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I think before the Alban Retail Park was added to an alternative entrance/exit road should have been built to come from the back of the estate & straight onto Cromwell Avenue which would have taken a lot of traffic off the Winwick Rd/Sandy Lane junction & maybe even the Long Lane junction would have been eased . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 There was a TV prog about traffic management and wardens in Bristol; showing the traffic congestion. It's clearly a problem in every Town and City in the Country; and unfortunately one has to conclude that "the car" IS the problem - just too many of them for a finite road space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 There was a TV prog about traffic management and wardens in Bristol; showing the traffic congestion. It's clearly a problem in every Town and City in the Country; and unfortunately one has to conclude that "the car" IS the problem - just too many of them for a finite road space. Has Rod King hijacked Observers account???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 It's the bottom line Baz; not enough road space to take the volume of traffic. They can't keep increasing "road space" as the built environment prevents it; unless you want to go in for mass demolitions of houses etc ! Over 30 years, one can notice the increased numbers of cars using basically the same infrastructure, and it really is down to numbers. Even parking shows it up; residential areas that were never designed "for the car" are now chocker with cars parked outside their houses, in streets where double parking almost blocks them off. Hate to advocate a divorce from the car Baz; but if more used (free as an incentive) busses or bikes, it would take large numbers of cars out of the queues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Hate to advocate a divorce from the car Baz; but if more used (free as an incentive) busses or bikes, it would take large numbers of cars out of the queues. and leave more space for me in my car!!! :smile: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 If people parked on their driveways instead of on the pavement things would be better for drivers AND pedestrians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Well next time you are in Downing Street.... why don't you 'av a word! I would if the Pm was responsible for highways in Warrington! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Maybe i chose the wrong route ,i don't know ,but it took me 2 hours to get to where i was parking near Salford University from Newton today for the RLWC final .I went via the East Lancs & from the M61 it was nose to tail all the way with match & shopping traffic. Coming home was easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I would if the Pm was responsible for highways in Warrington! he aint responsible for anything.... it was all Labours fault!!! :smile: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 If people parked on their driveways instead of on the pavement things would be better for drivers AND pedestrians! So where do people without driveways park or shouldn't they be allowed to have cars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Obs... FREE busses will never happen so you can rule that one out (well unless you have a free OAP bus pass or are on certain benefits etc of course). Bikes.. well up to you but you can count me out of that one. They shouldn't be anywhere near roads and cars if you ask me. Just think of the amount of money the government would loose out on if all the car drivers stopped using our cars and paying for petrol, road tax, insurance etc... they rely on us. Mmm maybe you do have a point though. Perhaps we all fill in SORN notices for a few months and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Never said "it WILL happen" Diz; we will carry on, in denial, until one day we reach total grid-lock with no one moving anywhere. Then, like many other things, there will be a sudden conversion to the only solution - less cars. Good point about the revenue though; but those who do still use their cars to travel on freed up roads (like Baz!), will have to be paying to make up the difference and fund the free busses ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Never said "it WILL happen" Diz; we will carry on, in denial, until one day we reach total grid-lock with no one moving anywhere. Then, like many other things, there will be a sudden conversion to the only solution - less cars. Good point about the revenue though; but those who do still use their cars to travel on freed up roads (like Baz!), will have to be paying to make up the difference and fund the free busses ! I hope not....my car tax is already over £420 a year as it is!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Do you drive and have a car Obs? Would you be willing to completely give it up too if it helped with the gridlock we see in Warrington most weeks? ... just wondered I wouldn't to be honest and I'm sure that if everyone gave up their cars and took to busses or bikes the sales in many town centre shops would go down too as we would all only buy what we could actually manage to carry home ..... of course there's always the internet for shopping with free delivery from near or far though so maybe that's the answer but then again there would be no need for local shops as out own town warehouses would suffice for that Hey think how many new houses or flats could be built or developed bringing in ever more money to the councils when all the shops and local businesses go bust and a change of use is allowed as there's nothing else left for them or the areas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Doubt I'll see it Diz; but when "total gridlock" finally arrives; it will be a case of having to. Folk will realise there's no alternative; but the Government will be driven into doing something, by the effect that congestion has on the economy, delays to business etc. You never know; corner shops may come back into fashion, even on "posh" housing estates; so folk can walk a hundred yards or so, to get their shopping?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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