Geoffrey Settle Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 If you do have one it needs to be renewed every 10 years because if you are driving and it's expired then you could face a fine up to £1,000 - so for an investment of £20 you save £980 fortunately my paper moth eaten one lasts for 46 years http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-2081666/Driving-licence-trap-1-6m-drivers-risk-hefty-fine-renewing-photograph-20-cost.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Still got my paper one, expires 05/08/2021 (if I haven't expired first ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Had my plastic one since I was 70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 It's a crafty move ,the licence is supposed to last until age 70 but to generate money your photograph needs updating every 10 years ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I saw the news about this today too Geoff. I've still got a paper one that I got when I was 18 but my other half has the plastic type (his had to be updated some years back when he got his speeding tickets... 35mph ). Neither of us were aware that his required renewing though as to be honest we've never looked at it that closely but thankfuly it seems there's another couple of years left on it PHEW so he is still legal. It also mentioned that paper licences were to be phased out by 2015 all together so I though that meant I'd have to upgrade mine too now but having just googled I think it means the paper suppliment to the new style photo licence will be phased out and not the type you, Asp and I have. Is that right ? Any idea ? Re having to renew the photo licence every 10 years though........ well it does make sense I suppose as people's appearances do change and photo driving licences can be used as proof of identity for internal flights and a whole host of other things so a good resemblance on your mug shot image to your actual face would stop any confusion. Passports have to be renewed so why not driving licences? Putting it into persepctive though WavyD .... £20 every 10 years only works out at at £2 a year and that's less than one pint of lager in a pub or 3 tins of soup (on offer at the moment in the local shop) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The paper licence has the validity date on it so it would be difficult for the authorities to justify cancelling it. However if you were to change your address or your name you would end up with the plastic one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The paper licence has the validity date on it so it would be difficult for the authorities to justify cancelling it. However if you were to change your address or your name you would end up with the plastic one. Asp - Yet another good reason not to leave Warrington or move house Dizzy why did he have to change to plastic just because of a speeding fine - the paper ones are great for writing the detail on - how can you write on plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadako Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 ...you need a licence to drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Perhaps the photo could be taken when the driver is asleep, texting or on the cell phone - so the cops can recognise them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 You mean you do not have to go in and do a relicense every so many years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 You mean you do not have to go in and do a relicense every so many years? Mary what do you mean do a relicence? Do you mean retake your driving test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Our photo card system is almost the same as the american system. as ours is a national license it covers you anywhere in the uk and is valid for ten years. after that time the license document needs to be renewed to update your photograph. the fee for renewal is £20.00 plus the cost of getting your photograph notarised by an appropriate person eg your doctor,local mp or actually any person working in a government position who can be classed loosely as a "Civil Servant" and has known you for the required number of years. the cost of this notarisation does vary depending on who you know. So if you happen to be chummy with somebody in the council offices then they may be able to do it for you free of charge (When I was employed at darsebury lab I signed quite a few photos for passports or driving licenses as I was classed as a Civil Servant despite being an oik from bewsey) once you have your signed photo all you do is fill in the appropriate form and send it off to the dvla? for renewal. you do not need to retake your test or anything else. you do have to inform them of any medical conditions that may affect your driving but they do not insist that you take a medical or anything else to prove you are fit to drive as far as I am aware. (not sure if after a certain age if they do or not haven't checked the requirements but if I am wrong I am sure that somebody on here will know) So for all of you "civil Servants" who fancy making the odd tenner here and there, get your pens out and get signing. (I would like to say that I never charged any fee for the signing of photographs for passports or driving licenses.) HONEST GUV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Just when we thought we were getting a grip - along come a new style licence on 19th January 2013 Here is the current format http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/motoring/driver-licensing/need-a-new-or-updated-licence/the-photocard-driving-licence-explained.htm and here is the 19th Jan onwards http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/motoring/driver-licensing/changes-to-driving-licence-rules-from-19-january-2013/the-new-driving-licence-card-design-explained.htm Couldn't spot the who can sign the photo though - may be you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Just when we thought we were getting a grip - along come a new style licence on 19th January 2013 Here is the current format http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/motoring/driver-licensing/need-a-new-or-updated-licence/the-photocard-driving-licence-explained.htm and here is the 19th Jan onwards http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/index/information-and-services/motoring/driver-licensing/changes-to-driving-licence-rules-from-19-january-2013/the-new-driving-licence-card-design-explained.htm Couldn't spot the who can sign the photo though - may be you can Geoff those two links are for Northern Ireland government/business (ie nidirect website). Thought it was odd where it mentioned the colour of the counterpart paper licence changing to green as they are already green over here. You need to be looking on the UK Dft/dvla website here http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/drivers.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 To be sure......I'll use that one in future Dizzy .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 In your position and with your wealth of knowledge you should have known that anyway Geoff without having to have a girlie tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter T Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 According to the bumph that you get with your photocard licence (INS57P), they are valid for up to ten years.This is to keep your picture up to date. They will semd you a reminder. However, after the age of 70, you will have to update your photo once only.This will be when you have to renew your licence, and again they will send a reminder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Hi Pete - is that the age when you have all the lines on your face that you are going to get I raised this topic 4 years ago and last year I had to use it for a security check. When I took it out of it's plastic wallet it was in bits but I stuck it back together and it passed the test, good old stick tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Aww, I feel sad now having seen this topic pop up after almost 4 years especially with the last comment before yours Geoff (and the one you were replying to) being from Peter T in 2013 I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I guess from your reply that you aren't aware that lovely Peter T sadly passed away in April last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I didn't but Asp sent me a message - I think the last time I saw Peter was at the Cinnamon Brow - Beer Festival with a pint in his hand - so a nice memory to have Gone but not forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I never actually met Peter in person Geoff although we did obviously chat on the forum, via private message and I also spoke to him over the phone a few times. Such a nice bloke and I so wish I'd met him in person if only to tease him more than I did online ha ha. Like you say gone but never forgotten Nice to read back on posts he made though over the years and it's like he's still here...maybe he is in spirit...eek I'd best be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted April 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Speaking of the Spirit we dined there last night very nice indeed. Somebody asked where the name came from but the waiter didn't know - I wonder whose spirit ii is named after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthonypr Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 just joined the forum after leaving Warrington about 10 years ago, I was a member of the old forum, just been catching up with the goings on and found this sad news RIP Peter T, I had no idea I haven't seen him since the beer fest or the time Mary was over and we played bowls in latchford, anyone know how his wife Jane is? Is Mary still here? And Brenda ? Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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