algy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 1850. The building on the right next to the 'Bull's Head' is the dreaded Workhouse. A report from Warrington, dated August 18th, 1729, noted that: To my great satisfaction, I find in this Place a Workhouse, or House of Maintenance for the Poor finished, and many Poor already in it, pursuant to the Model you sent me 4 Years ago, which... was the Occasion of erecting this spacious Workhouse. The workhouse, Warrington's first, had been erected on Church Street in 1728 and accommodated around 100 inmates. The rules of the house in 1820 included the barring of alcohol, no spitting or filth of any kind, no profane swearing, cursing or "obscene jests". There was also a ban on the "reading of songs, ballads, books or publications of an immoral tendency" A parliamentary report of 1777 recorded workhouses at Warrington (for up to 100 inmates), at Cuerdley (50), and at Great Sankey (45). Eden, in his 1797 survey of the poor in England, reported of Warrington that: The Poor are maintained partly at home (188 out-pensioners, of whom 65 are men, 113 women, and the rest children), partly in a Workhouse, where there are 95 inmates (50 children under 9 years and the rest mostly old and infirm). They are employed in spinning hair for hair cloth, winding warp for sailcloth, etc. Half the heavy sailcloth used in the Navy was made here. Table of diet in the Workhouse: Breakfast—Sunday, pottage and butter milk, sweatened with treacle; Monday, Friday, bread and broth; other days, milk pottage. Dinner—Sunday, Thursday, broth beef and vegetables; Monday, thick pottage or hasty pudding; Saturday, butter milk and potatoes; other days, cold meat and potatoes. Supper—Sunday, bread and cheese; other days, boiled milk or milk pottage. It appears from the accounts published by the overseer and governor of the Workhouse that the following was the cost of the provisions per head per week for the following periods : 1st May, 1792, to 1st May, 1793 1s. 6¾d. 1st May, 1793, to 1st May, 1794 1s. 6d. 1st May, 1794, to 1st May, 1795 1s. 4d. The Workhouse is an old one, but is kept very clean, and the Poor there seem very contented. The beds are filled with chaff, and are well provided with covering. Warrington fair held in Church Street. In 1255 AD the town was given the right to hold a fair. The workhouse was demolished in 1851. 1854. St Elphin's Parish Church, there has been a church of this name since 650 AD. A spire was added in the rebuild of 1859 to 1867 and is 281ft high. 1858. St. Elphin's Parish Church with three ladies in their finery. 1900. A horse-drawn bus outside the Cemetery Hotel. One that slipped through, this should have been with the Buttermarket Street Photos, better late than never!. 1900. Staff of the Eagle printing works on Scotland Road. 1900. The old half timbered house in Church Street, tradition has it that Oliver Cromwell stayed here, this is thought not to be correct, according to a local historian Mark Olly, Cromwell lodged next to this building occupied by another property of which the corner can be seen to the left of the photo. Church Street just before tram lines were installed. Church street after tram lines had been laid, Ryland's wire works on the left, the site is now occupied by Sainsbury's store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Look at how many gravestones there are! No wonder I couldn't find many of my ancestors there, so many stones have been moved. Those 3 ladies are great - Wouldn't want to mess with the one in the middle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Look at how many gravestones there are! No wonder I couldn't find many of my ancestors there, so many stones have been moved. Those 3 ladies are great - Wouldn't want to mess with the one in the middle! There are hardly any there now Tracy. I remember you saying that you were researching your family history so I'm sure you know of this site, however just in case here is the web address of 'The Lancashire Online Parish Clerk Project':- Marriages at St Elphin in the Parish of Warrington. http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Warrington/stelphin/marriages.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Those 3 ladies are great - Wouldn't want to mess with the one in the middle! is it me miscounting or there actually four ladies on the photo and if so has the fourth one mysteriuosly appeared since the picture was posted :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 And the Lord said, Come F.... Marvellous pictures. think half of Warrington lived in the Church street area. Didn't know the work-house was there - used to think my ancestors were home-owners, but perhaps..... Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 where did the gravestones get moved to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 where did the gravestones get moved to? They have been used to make paths around the church, a few are leaning against the Church wall and again a few in the grounds. Visit Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 is it me miscounting or there actually four ladies on the photo and if so has the fourth one mysteriuosly appeared since the picture was posted :unsure: Must be you miscounting Sid, there's only three. Go lie down till you have sobered up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Tudor Cottage is amazing, still standing for so long. It's a wonder the council haven't demolished it like they have with so many other historic buildings but then again they probably realise there would be one hell of a backlash if they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Look at how many gravestones there are! No wonder I couldn't find many of my ancestors there, so many stones have been moved. Those 3 ladies are great - Wouldn't want to mess with the one in the middle! That one looks like a man in drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 That one looks like a man in drag. Hey! Cleo your talking about my great, great grandma (or grandad?) y'know. :grin: Gettin' too late for me, my eads' gettin' befuddled, goin' to bed now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I see where you get your looks from then algy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I see where you get your looks from then algy! Early to bed early to rise, makes a man healthy wealthy and wise. Don't think you you quite got that right Ben lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Thank for thinking of me Algy, I do use the online parish clerks quite a lot. It's a god send (is that irony?!) when you live away from the area you're researching like I do. I also spent a fair amount of my last visit to Warrington scrabbling around St Elphin's looking for John Leigh's epitaph after seeing your thread about it on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Who is Ben? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Who is Ben? Cleo, everyone has heard of Bill & Ben the flower pot men! Ben is the chap who penned the saying "Early to bed, early to rise" Benjamin Franklin US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 - 1790). Happy now! Nosey. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 They have been used to make paths around the church, a few are leaning against the Church wall and again a few in the grounds. Visit Flickr nice patio idea that..... I wonder if Groundforce will take it on board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I counted 4 figures in the top picture as well, but perhaps one of them isn't a lady? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I counted 4 figures in the top picture as well, but perhaps one of them isn't a lady? :unsure: There has always been four and I would say they were all female, although they do say that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Re the 4 'ladies' on the St Elphins pic I recon the one on the far right (side view) is definately a bloke. Blimey 'he' even has a long white beard and dark glasses on and the one second from the left looks positively evil I'm not looking at that pic again as it really gives me goosebumps. It's creepy and I feel a recurring and uneasy need to delete it Other pics are great though Algy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Cleo, everyone has heard of Bill & Ben the flower pot men! Ben is the chap who penned the saying "Early to bed, early to rise" Benjamin Franklin US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 - 1790). Happy now! Nosey. :grin: Oh busy Ben who had a finger in so many pies! yes, happy now. You learn something new every day. Cheers Algy, me auld sage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Must say, the women of bye-gone days looked pretty grim. pardon the contradiction in terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Must say, the women of bye-gone days looked pretty grim. pardon the contradiction in terms. G'night me owd' Nefertiti. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Re the 4 'ladies' on the St Elphins pic I recon the one on the far right (side view) is definately a bloke. Blimey 'he' even has a long white beard and dark glasses on and the one second from the left looks positively evil I'm not looking at that pic again as it really gives me goosebumps. It's creepy and I feel a recurring and uneasy need to delete it Other pics are great though Algy I know exactly what you mean Dizzy! It looks like the kind of photo where the photographer only noticed the ladies when the photo was developed .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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