harry hayes Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I feel we are in for a lot of unsavoury horse-trading on this issue of Scottish independence. For myself, I feel Dave might just allow himself to be blackmailed into concessions, to which this jaundiced writer feels is already a loss leader. Happy days "moral indignation - jealousy with a halo" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 IMO they should give Scotland independence, within a few years they will be like Ireland, broke and being bailed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 In a sense, they've got "independent" Governance with the SNP, who are proving more competant than the rest - but I doubt they'll be foolish enough to go all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 I thinks they should be allowed to govern themselves if that's what the majority want, plus raise their own taxes instead of getting all their money from us. That would soon make them realise how much we've been spending on them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yep, it's amazing what huge chunks of subsidy money from the English can do to convince people that the Scottish government are doing a competent job! How far over budget and how behind schedule were the parliament building and the Edinburgh tram system again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Seems their voters think they're doing a good job - hence the landslide victory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 My worry is that Dave won't want to be seen as the man who broke the UK up and so will make concessions. I apprecite the whole process was started by labour and the setting up of national parliaments. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Should Scotland vote for - and ultimately win - independence they will find it was all an illusion. All that lovely oil revenue will disappear into the hungry coffers of Brussels and meanwhile the taxpayers will see themselves paying more and more for less and less. Until we get ourselves out of the EU mess any thoughts of self governance for any of the parts of the UK are just pipe dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 If the majority of Scots want independence then they should have it. Same with Wales - then maybe we could be a part of Wales and governed by the Welsh Assembly which appears to be more people/community friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I say give them their independance now and send all the Scottish MP's freeloading in our goverment back over the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Less than a third of Jocks support independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Less than a third of Jocks support independence. Probably, they will have to kiss bye bye to all this wonderful stuff such as free care for the elderly, free prescriptions, and free university (funded by the English, which get none of these). If the Scots want it then let them have it, the people have spoke! At least it will end the West lothian Question and the Barnet formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 The original idea was for the UK to have "devolved" Government - but Prezzer bottled it. This would have allowed the 7million folk in the N/West to have free prescription, free Uni places etc; like the 5million Scots, the 1million Welsh and the 1million Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 The origin of regional assemblies (9 in England, 3 in Scotland, Wales, and N. Ireland) came from the real government in the EU. Northwest, Northeast, etc are Euro regions, Ofcourse Britain has been regionalised for many years with counties, I asked an EU employee in strasbourg why regionlise our country when there are counties, he diddnt give a satisfactory answer but thats for another topic. I personally believe in a devolved system, I think there should be "english only days" in westminster (no multi millions needed to build an english parl) simply to discuss english only issues, the other "kingdoms" have it, so why not England? the power given should be more than council level, but less than national level, if scotland wants to govern themselves then ofcourse it should be decided in a free and fair referendum, But Alex Salmond and the SNP want at the same time to be subservient to the EU, and to adopt the failed Euro, is that really independence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Can't accept this "England Nation" buisiness; we in the N/West have more in common with Scotland than we do with the S/East of England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Can't accept this "England Nation" buisiness; we in the N/West have more in common with Scotland than we do with the S/East of England. speak for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazj Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 If Scotland is such a nice and good place; why are there so many Scots on this side of the border and why aren't they all up there contributing to their own economy? Or are the Oil and Skiing industries not that lucrative after all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Economic refugees?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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