safeway56 Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm a dyed in the wool left wing loonie who would never vote Tory(spits) but even I found these stats unacceptable. In 1997, the NHS had 12 hospital beds per manager; now it has four. In local government under Brown, the number of people in councils earning more than ?50,000 a year has shot up by a factor of 11 from 3,300 to 38,000 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/21/nick-cohen-public-sector-waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm a dyed in the wool left wing loonie who would never vote Tory really? why not? would you rather vote for a party which has delivered the kind of statistics you put the link to or vote for a party that will change things? Died in the wool left wing loonies are the reason Shaun Woodward (multi millionaire ex Tory with a butler and a few mansions) got voted in as a labour MP in St Helens.... so when you died in the wool left wing loonys bang on about the posh tories just remember him and his background because he is one of you now! Or maybe you could vote Lib Dems.... we have a few local councillors who have MP asperations, one of them; the Brummy Jo Crotty has a flat of convenience in Bewsey I'm told..... so that must make her a "local!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Baz, That is WHY this country is in such a mess. People voting for the same incompetence because that is what their dad's did. The laugh is that New Labour are probably more "conservative" than the Tories are, but the difference being that on gets us into debt and the other then has to get us out of debt. Yet still people prefer the debt party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 21, 2010 Report Share Posted February 21, 2010 Because, at the end of the day; folk, don't want want to be told "like it is" but "like they want it to be"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 People voting for the same incompetence because that is what their dad's did. I've no idea how my late Father voted because I barely knew him. I made up my own mind about what's right and wrong at a very early age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robocop Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I made up my own mind about what's right and wrong at a very early age. As my grand father once told me - "If you've never voted Labour you've never had a heart, if you've never voted Tory you haven't got a brain!" Perhaps you have come of age Safeway and developed some brain power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 The laugh is that New Labour are probably more "conservative" than the Tories are, but the difference being that on gets us into debt and the other then has to get us out of debt. Interesting coming from you Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Sounds like an arguement on the contents of a toilet, prior to flushing - they're all a load of ****! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Vote for the Tories a govt that that have absolutely no qualms about poisoning the population with BSE infected meat, whilst telling them it's safe to eat when knowing it's not. Vote for New Lab (Tories under a New name) who will send all our sons off to die to protect the interests of American oil and pharmacutical companies, whilst the rest of the population live under threat of being blown apart by terrorists. Vote for a Lib Dem Dictatorship, who have absolutely no idea what they are doing ....except that whatever cockeyed schemes they may eventually come up with they intend to force them upon us. Not a lot of choice is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 No ...........but from what you say the Tories maybe be the best bet as at least we can all turn into vegetarians which going on another topic posted today will also help save dogs and the environment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Sha, given your three options the Conservatives get my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Based on the spin that's coming from the main parties, they havn't got a clue what or where they are going, the knee jerk policy initiatives are coming thick and fast: the latest being, yet more fiddling with the education system, to put Mom and Dad in charge of little Jonny's school, and if little Jonny isn't doing too well (cos he may just be too thick), Mom and Dad can sack the Head Teacher, and take over the school. Bit like the half baked workers co-operative idea: throw a bag of money at the parents and let them fight over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The Tories do not get my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 The Tories do not get my vote No surprise there then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I'm referering to both Labour and Tories; they just havn't got any vision on anything - just short term spin and political expediency to win elections, and when in power, no conviction to see anything delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 And your party of choice the BNP have Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 And your party of choice the BNP have Obs I presume this means something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Evidently to Kyje! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Maybe it needs a couple of commas, one after choice and the other after BNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Are you talking about grammer Asp, if so are you not missing a full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 No I'm not talking about the grammar LtKije, I'm talking about it being a random assembly of words which, together, result in a completely meaningless statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 Congratulations Asp you have set a new record, eighteen days to answer a question. However you shall be excused because due to the incorrect punctuation you probably didn't realise that it was a question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 18, 2010 Report Share Posted March 18, 2010 That and the absence of a question mark My real excuse is lack of an internet connection running between Rotterdam, the Channel Islands, Honfleur and Boulogne. On the sunny Humber today though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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