observer Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Just passed an RTA, where a young woman had hit the a*** end of a young bloke's car - quite a mess. Now a possibility is that the girl could have been "texting" at the time - but how do you prove it? Presumably the Police are the only agency that can check text records, but they only attend accidents where folk are injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 force the texter to disclose her phone records. Easily done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 How? You don't actually know she was texting, it's merely a suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Only your suspicion, isn't this a repeat of a similar shot in the dark post about a month ago? Â Isn't there also the possibility that she wasn't texting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Isn't there also the possibility that she wasn't texting? Â Yeh, she could have been putting her lipstick on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 she may have been dazzled by the sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 If she never completed the text and sent it then nothing will show up on her phone records. Â Incoming texts won't show up on her bill either. Â And if she's on a Pay-as-you-go deal, she won't even get a bill at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 So how did they catch that "Lord" recently, who had been using his moby prior to an accident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 So how did they catch that "Lord" recently, who had been using his moby prior to an accident? Â 'cos he's on contract not PAYG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 So how did they catch that "Lord" recently, who had been using his moby prior to an accident? Â They checked his records and found that due to the times of the texts and where he had the accident; he must have been using his phone to send and recieve texts just prior to the accident. Â Mind you, he got off with a few days inside after all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well it would seem she can't be charged with a criminal driving offence then? Be interested in the excuse she's put in the insurance claim?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 You are a bit behind the times, Obs. They are not RTAs now, they are RTCs. Road traffic collisions. This is presumably because the police do not wish to accept that any collision is an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Why would it be interesting what she put in her insurance claim? Â "Don't bother explaining luv, you are found Guilty by Forum?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Oh, sorry Eagle, the fist vehicle, that got his a** end smashed up; could have reversed into her - would never have thought of that without your fair minded comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Being fair minded is a natural trait which you are very obviously lacking, but just carry on with your endless posts of unfounded accusation, innuendo and bullshit. Â BTW, was the driver actually texting as you suggest or was it just another "look how clever I am" post? Â You must have suffered a great setbackin n your life/career to be so anti-everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 So how did they catch that "Lord" recently, who had been using his moby prior to an accident? Â The police can get records of all calls and texts (but not their contents!!!) sent or received from the telecoms provider. Â My point was that with no police involvement you can't "force the texter to disclose her phone records", because she won't have them all and possibly doesn't have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Touch of the green-eyed monster trying to get out there Eagle?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 There is nothing about you that I am jealous of. I have a life outside this Forum. Â I don't measure my success in life on the number of absolutely childish and pathetic posts that I make on here. You however bask in your reputation as Forum clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 All sorts of organizations can obtain mobile phone records, not just the Police, whether PAYG or contract, this includes PIs, lawyers and insurance companies. Â Mobile phone records are frequently used in civil cases, although I believe obtaining them is expensive. Â However what is the point of trying to get mobile phone records in this case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 A perfectly innocent post about a RTA, and it releases all that pent up aggression, perhaps you shouldn't be driving at the moment Eag or reading my posts?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 as a lawyer i can confirm you can force disclosure of them, i wont however bore people with how but it can be done but more likley in the larger value cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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