Pedro Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 So our Council have appointed Humberts - largest Leisure business agents in the country - to find some interested parties to help them expand the facilities into some kind of regional park. But is there a hidden agenda here and if some outfit comes along with an attractive offer will they sell this 'jewel in the crown' ?? The details do state the whole estate is freehold. A theme patk maybe ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 A theme Park would be a great idea.... does no harm to the income of Alton Towers.... even if that is in private hands!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Now that's the second time I've heard reference to Walton Gardens becoming a theme park Can't see it though as it's not big enough and Gullivers World is not far away but it would be fun ..... for a while What I don't understand is why the council are seeking 'other' partners and private investors to help with it's future when it offers so much already and could easily offer more. The more people who are in on it... the less money the council will get out of it.... unless of course the council are bought out New appartment anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Oh yes.... that golf course is prime building land too...!! Do we really need two golf courses so close together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Dunno do we... I don't play golf Now you've mentioned it there is a lot of other spare land round there too... who owns all that I wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well the Tories and Libs wanted to sell off all our Council Housing stock; so it looks like Walton won't have long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well the Tories and Libs wanted to sell off all our Council Housing stock; so it looks like Walton won't have long. So have you gone back to labour now obs? Because looking at your posts today it certainly looks that way compared with last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Politics is about the lesser of evils; the EU vote was merely an opportunity for a "NO" vote - next year it matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 Oh yes.... that golf course is prime building land too...!! Do we really need two golf courses so close together?Simple answer is yes, becasue 'we' only have one, the other iw Warrington, a private club. Warrington is short of golf courses, and only has one municipal, and underneath the lack of care and investment made by the council, is a cracking course that makes the town money, and could make a helluva lot more if they actually would listen to some of the club's suggestions (which are obvious to any golfer), or indeed, even just employ a proper grenkeeper instead of a bunch of grasscutters. They could also do with getting in a pro who gives a rats ass and actually tries to actively encourage golfers to play there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Is nothing sacred? WBC after the 'quick quid' yet again! Yet another grandoise idea which will backfire on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Is nothing sacred?WBC after the 'quick quid' yet again! Yet another grandoise idea which will backfire on them Well they took the clubhouse back from the club last year in the hope of making a few more 'quick quids', one of the reasons I am no longer a member or likely to ever play there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Press release Looking to the future THE council is keen to safeguard the long term future of local landmark Walton Hall and is in the process of developing a masterplan of investment and improvement of the estate. In order to do this, the council is looking to work with other partners, operators and organisations to help draw up sympathetic plans for the future. It is hoped this opportunity will enhance the range of on site leisure activities. The ultimate aim is securing the long term sustainability and preservation of this historic local asset for the benefit of the local community, whilst at the same time to attract investment to conserve, improve and maintain this wonderful asset. Public access to the estate will be safeguarded. The estate and golf course covers 196 acres and includes the historic conference and function centre; formal gardens and parkland; 18 hole 6,800 yard (par 72) golf course and clubhouse; a range of estate outbuildings; a zoo, play area and other outdoor leisure/ recreational facilities. Contributions are particularly encouraged from local and regional organisations and partners and interests are invited by Friday 17 July. For more information please contact Ben Allen of HLL Humberts Leisure via ben.allen@humberts-leisure.com or call 01962 835 960. Ends Issued by: Katy Block, press officer Date: Monday 18 May 2009 Release: Immediate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Press releaseLooking to the future THE council is keen to safeguard the long term future of local landmark Walton Hall and is in the process of developing a masterplan of investment and improvement of the estate. In order to do this, the council is looking to work with other partners, operators and organisations to help draw up sympathetic plans for the future. It is hoped this opportunity will enhance the range of on site leisure activities. The ultimate aim is securing the long term sustainability and preservation of this historic local asset for the benefit of the local community, whilst at the same time to attract investment to conserve, improve and maintain this wonderful asset. Public access to the estate will be safeguarded. The estate and golf course covers 196 acres and includes the historic conference and function centre; formal gardens and parkland; 18 hole 6,800 yard (par 72) golf course and clubhouse; a range of estate outbuildings; a zoo, play area and other outdoor leisure/ recreational facilities. Contributions are particularly encouraged from local and regional organisations and partners and interests are invited by Friday 17 July. For more information please contact Ben Allen of HLL Humberts Leisure via ben.allen@humberts-leisure.com or call 01962 835 960. Ends Issued by: Katy Block, press officer Date: Monday 18 May 2009 Release: Immediate We had that story on our site last week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Walton Park is lovely as it is, so why can't they just leave it as it is? Public consultation beforeagents were appointed to produce plans to 'develop' it would have been a more ethical and also more responsible approach as these agents will have to be paid whether their plans are approved or not. If public objection is so strong as to block any proposed plans then these consultants fees will be more public money wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Walton Park is lovely as it is, so why can't they just leave it as it is? Public consultation beforeagents were appointed to produce plans to 'develop' it would have been a more ethical and also more responsible approach as these agents will have to be paid whether their plans are approved or not.. Have to say that as far as the golf course goes, the council have made an absolute dogs breakfast of trying to run that, so not before time that they tried a new angle. And as for feedback, they have had never ending feedback from the club, but have either been unable, or competent enough to do anything about it? What is striking though, is that this was all clearly on the agenda last year when the lease of the clubhouse was taken back from the club, despite protestations to the contrary. Pretty underhanded imo, but if a company that actually has a clue about golf comes in, then it's not bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well the Tories and Libs wanted to sell off all our Council Housing stock; so it looks like Walton won't have long. Not actually selling it Observer, it is being tranferred to a Registered Social Landlord...Golden Gates Housing Trust. With regards to the Walton Estate, I will be asking a question at Full Council on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 What is striking though, is that this was all clearly on the agenda last year when the lease of the clubhouse was taken back from the club, despite protestations to the contrary. Pretty underhanded imo, but if a company that actually has a clue about golf comes in, then it's not bad thing. It never occurred to me that Walton Golf Course was also part of Walton Gardens Does sound a bit 'iffy' that the lease of the clubhouse has been taken back from the club but maybe it's just coincidence Any idea if the land of Warrington Sports Club is also part of the Walton Hall Estate ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Warrrington Sports Club and land it occupies definitely nothing to do with Walton Estate and Warrington Borough Council. The naming 'Walton Estate' is confusing in that it was the 'Walton Estate' which was auctioned off in 1941 after the death of Lord Daresbury in 1939 and Warrington Corporation took the opportunity to purchase the Hall, land and several cottages outside of the auction of farms and houses for ?27,000. After the municipal golf course opened with nine holes in 1970 more farm land was bought from Hough Lane up to Hill Cliffe and developed into the other nine holes of the present 18 holes course. Other adjacent farm land could be purchased to increase the size of the present parkland. Incidentally, the Agents appointed by WBC, Humberts, Leisure Agency specialists, went bust some time ago and are now Dutch owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 and are now Durch owned. Them Durch again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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