Observer II Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Seems folk must be using fans and humidifiers at the moment, as the grid has had to bring two coal fired power stations on line to cope with the surge. But it seems unbelievably, that the drop in supply was due to the incapacity of solar farms to cope with the hot weather. So it seems they don't work when there's no sunshine, but also when there is. So much for this crazy net-zero nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 My Mini Solar panels arrive tomorrow dont.produce a huge amount however every bit counts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 Can't say I understand the technicalities, but the hot weather apparently undermines the efficiency of solar panels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 15, 2023 Report Share Posted June 15, 2023 I’m not sure where you get your info from, but I’ve just checked the National Grid live and they’re not reporting any coal being burnt today. Right now, solar is providing 25.2% of our needs but there’s very little wind so the gas fired stations are working flat out to compensate for the lack of wind. I monitor the power levels of my mini solar setup every day and I’ve noticed a slight drop off in the last few days due to the high temperatures but it’s not a huge, probably about 5% down from the peak power on a cooler day. The panels are black so they naturally get very hot in full sun but a 5% drop in efficiency can’t be classed as not working. Even on overcast days, they can still provide good power depending on the thickness of the clouds. I wouldn’t want my life to depend on their output but given its essentially free electricity, I’ll take whatever comes. At the moment, my few little panels are holding my average use to less than 18p per day which isn’t bad for something that’s supposedly not working. 😊 Hi Steve. I’d be interested to hear what you’re getting and whether it’s a DIY setup like mine or if you’ve got a company in to do it for you. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 On the subject of energy and following on the green money-making racket. Does anyone have any idea how much the council makes from all the solar panels on council houses? I reckon given the huge amount I see; it’s got to be the equivalent of several entire solar farms. I can’t find any info on the issue and don’t know how it works in terms of who gets a share of what from the energy generated. If it’s a good idea and working for the council then wouldn’t it make sense for them to be encouraging everyone to do the same rather than keeping it all quiet? Another thing I can’t understand is when the overall figures are published for the UK’s solar capacity, does that include that generated by all the council houses across the country? I can understand a solar farm being able to report it’s power to the national grid but how would an individual house with solar be able to do the same? My micro solar setup has already contributed nearly half a megawatt to the grid so far this year but I'm the only person that knows that. 🧐 Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 had an interesting post on faceache yesterday. it asked why don't we put solar panels on car parks. if you look at the supermarket car parks then most would probably provide enough to run the store and probably a few dozen houses as well. would also provide shade from the sun so that cars would not be like a furnace after you get back to them from shopping. an extra half floor of them on the top of a multi storey could supply enough to charge a few electric cars as well. in fact any building with a large flat roof could house a few dozen panels to help provide some energy, especially the public ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 From an economic point of view it’s a no brainer but for places like supermarkets or in fact any public place, I think liability and planning would be a major issue. It’s ok investing in solar if all the returns go straight into your own pocket but in the case of supermarkets, if it reduced their costs then they’d be expected to reduce their prices. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 or pay the distributors and farmers a few bob extra. 2.5 kg of spuds for £1,60. they are making a profit on that even after paying the packers, hauliers and farmers. so how much do they pay the farmers for that amount, not to mention the packagers and distributors of those spuds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Seems they've discovered a method of carbon capture from the atmosphere, which can be converted into energy production, if so, this sorts out the net zero nonsense in one go. However, if we take too much CO2 out of the atmosphere, things will start to get cooler, to bring a return to "snowball earth" - yer just can't win. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Observer II said: Seems they've discovered a method of carbon capture from the atmosphere, which can be converted into energy production, if so, this sorts out the net zero nonsense in one go. However, if we take too much CO2 out of the atmosphere, things will start to get cooler, to bring a return to "snowball earth" - yer just can't win. 😑 Citation please, let me say I'm sceptical because of the second law of thermodynamics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 Well it was in the MSM, so I suppose your right to be sceptical. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 23, 2023 Report Share Posted June 23, 2023 My perpetual motion machine worked on the same principle, or rather it didn’t 😊 I’ve just read on the news that the old Fiddles ferry power station site is going to be used for mass energy storage and it’s possibly going to be the biggest in the country. The report didn’t mention what kind of storage is being planned but it’s likely to be bulk batteries. This is good news but in the longer term I believe the bulk of stored power to the grid will come from electric car users selling any excess charge back which could eventually make this facility redundant. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 We'll all be using Shanksies Pony, at least those left to salute the new dawn. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Seems Rishi has slipped in the "Green Levy" on the hard pressed peasants, and there's no escape with Starmer either - our political elite are under WEF control and it's the plebs who are suffering. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Hello everyone Sorry not been back for awhile,still having health problems.. Bill had my Solar Mini panels up and running, they are ok and produce a bit of Power,not a great amount but enough to run my fridge and TV during the day..will take about 3 years before its paid for itself My son Set them up and it wasnt difficult at all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Steve, Perhaps you could tell us, how Germany is managing at the moment ? You've scrapped coal, nuclear and the Yanks blew up your gas pipeline, so you now have to pay over the odds for LPG from the Yanks. The most powerfull state in the EU now being reduced to the sick man of Europe, through de-industrialisation, thanks to the Greens. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Obs the fuel prices are dropping again, the gas Reserve Tanks are 94% full and there is enough Electric too however i do believe that quite a bit Electric is being imported. All in all i cant say im worried about shortages of Gas or Electic not yet anyway. The Germans have been good and have reduced their Power usage over the last 18 months.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 Glad to hear it Steve, just hope they have the sense to get rid of the current Gov, and support AfD ! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 13, 2023 Report Share Posted September 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Observer II said: Glad to hear it Steve, just hope they have the sense to get rid of the current Gov, and support AfD ! 😉 WoW I was always against AFD however they are gaining and tbh what they say is very true and promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 The MSM describe them as "far right", as they do elsewhere; but they are basically translating the thoughts of ordinary folk, which the woke MSM describe a far right in any case. The woke elite are basically at war with the majority of their populations, and in Europe the majority are catching on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 AFD Are telling the people what they want to hear,i took part in a "Wahlomat" where you answer a series of Political questions and they give you a Suggestion of which Political Party is most Suiten to you, mine was AFD, however a certain Political Party done the same in 1933 and we all know what happened there, but the People are so fed up that the AFD are gaining Support going from 4% to nearly 17% and gaining.. The next Elections will be interesting as i do believe that the AFD Will be one of the strongest Partys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 They call it "populism" Steve, well to me. the whole point of a political party is to be exactly that - to be "popular" and adopt policies that the majority of the people want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 All depends on what price has to be paid and we are prepared to pay if they do all what they say will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted September 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 Well the penny seems to be dropping in most of Europe, as electorates reject the woke, globalist left and move to the right. The pressure of immigration continues to build, with all Governments afraid to take the necessary draconian action to protect our borders. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted September 15, 2023 Report Share Posted September 15, 2023 Agreed Goverments are too scared in case they are called Racist.. Help people yes but not through Migration to our Countrys Massive Migration helps no one in the end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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