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What? The schools have opened and, co-incidentally, some people have (allegedly) caught the virus that's going around? And are they in hospital ICU, or have they just gone back home to watch TV again? About 1000 people have been tested and found to have the virus every day, but the death rate is miniscule. The time has come to face reality, we can't hide behind the sofa forever. Boris has to stop the scare-mongering and allow life to return to normal. The experts have been wrong all along and have caused thousands of unnecessary deaths.

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The NHS forcing people with the virus out of hospitals into care homes to infect the old people in them wasn't down to "herd immunity mentality", it was down to "saving the NHS" mentality. As it is we have no idea how far along the herd immunity road we are because the waters have become so muddied with false statistics and theories. How many people on this forum have had a test for Covid19, or think they may have had it at some time since last November?

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No doubt the "save the NHS" mentality will return this Winter as seasonal flu adds to the spike and we get groundhog day again.  For all those resting on their laurels as having had the virus, it seems evidence is now appearing that immunity doesn't last and re-infection is a possibility.   So for at risk groups, the Grim Reaper just ain't going away.     😷😷

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58 minutes ago, Observer II said:

No doubt the "save the NHS" mentality will return this Winter as seasonal flu adds to the spike and we get groundhog day again.  For all those resting on their laurels as having had the virus, it seems evidence is now appearing that immunity doesn't last and re-infection is a possibility.   So for at risk groups, the Grim Reaper just ain't going away.     😷😷

If that's correct then a vaccine will be useless.

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Exactly.    💀      As I've said umpteen times during this pandemic,  at risk groups will have to remain shielded,  the younger age groups by cohorts can be exposed gradually;  but we need an effective trace and tracking system in place.   The call centre idea doesn't seem to have worked as the coverage may be insufficient and compliance unknown.  Likewise the new phone app; most elderly probably haven't even got an appropriate phone to get the app, assuming they knew how to use it; and it requires 80% coverage to be effective.   Whilst it seems to be working in China and S/Korea,  their populations are probably more compliant with Gov edicts. Here in the UK, the Police are still having to break up raves etc. :rolleyes:    When the next surge does come,  I would think it advisable that  NHS resources are divided between Corvid cases, using the Nightingale Hospitals, and non-Corvid cases using existing Hospitals, in order to restore some confidence in normal medical emergencies and elective surgery, important, as people are now dying through lack of treatment for other ailments.   😷

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3 hours ago, asperity said:

If that's correct then a vaccine will be useless.

It will not be useless. The number of antibodies and T-cells generated depends on the severity of the infection. For those with a mild infection the protection will be correspondingly low. The vaccine gives a response such that the patient is protected at the level which corresponds to a severe infection so hopefully lasts longer. For older folks that is a level of infection which may have been fatal so vaccination is essential and certainly no useless.

We vaccinate against measles, kids have always been able to get measles more than once and mine certainly did. It doesn't make the vaccine useless and in the case of coronavirus they will be testing how long before grumpies need a booster. Normal practice I think. 

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a very small percentage of people will contract measles despite having the vaccination, about 3%. Usually though if you had the two vaccinations then you won't get them again.

Depending on what experts you listen to though, as usual, on whether or not you can or can't get measles after vaccination.

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5 hours ago, Observer II said:

Dozens of schools are now reporting cases of virus infection - surprise, surprise 😷

The schools only went back last week. I presume a lot of them have been testing for the virus and, if that's the case, will be finding a lot of positives. As any children that are ill with the virus would still be at home, the cases in school can't be that serious surely? Meanwhile cases in general are shooting up while hospital admissions and deaths have flatlined.

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19 minutes ago, asperity said:

The schools only went back last week. I presume a lot of them have been testing for the virus and, if that's the case, will be finding a lot of positives. As any children that are ill with the virus would still be at home, the cases in school can't be that serious surely? Meanwhile cases in general are shooting up while hospital admissions and deaths have flatlined.

Hospital admissions usually go up 5 days to a week after cases spike but because the it the young they will have to infect grandparents first so it will be 9 days to two weeks for hospitalisations and deaths are three weeks or more behind that, they are coming if the young don't heed the warnings and change their behaviour PDQ, which they will not because they are too self-obsessed. By the by time they realise what they have done it will be far too late.

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My point is that any children tested positive must have been infected before going back to school. This being the case they will already have passed it on to any elderly relatives they are in contact with. Anyway time will tell.

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