observer Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Seems to be a bit of a fuss over the Yanks "spying" on their allies; but listening to a so-called "intelligence expert" on TV; it seems this is all part of a reciprocal game, where Governments who can't spy on their own populations get others to do it, then share out the information. Perhaps the Germans didn't think the Yanks would be interested in what kind of pizza Frau Merkel was ordering?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Is that the same fuss as last time Obs or a new one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcutting Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 No, absolutlely not!!!! Please get real, John Major liked Curry on his Pizzazz (Edwina) but Bill liked Monika and Flowers but the UK thinks that David Cameron's communications "have not, are not and will not" be monitored by the US !!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 They can monitor my phone calls any time they want. most of them are from "Dave" in a call centre in India wanting to know what i think of any number of inane topics. If we did not spy on our allies how could we then deny all knowledge of what they had been up to when they are found out to be up to no good. To be honest ( for a given value of honest) spying on your allies is much easier than spying on your enemies. How else would you know that they are thinking what you want them to think about what you are thinking about. Its called "politics" innit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I suppose it is just a more high tech method of knowing what Mrs Jones at number 43 is up to rather than peering through the curtains. Spying makes the world go round ,even providing extra fun for kids as they try & find out in advance what Santa will be bringing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 The thing I find amazing is that, knowing how easy it is to tap into mobile phones, people in high places use them at all! Frau Merkel, apparently, is addicted to texting. In my book, that makes her totally unsuitable for the high office she holds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Time to bring back "speckled Jim" then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It used to be very easy to break in to mobile phone conversations, not so easy government ones,as they are scrambled as the german phones were. Don't know why texting would make you unsuitable for government, In my opinion being born with a silver spoon would make you more unsuitable, as you would not know the meaning of Want or need as our present incumbent is now demonstrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Seems some ex-journalists are now on trial for tapping into phone calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ah, so Kije belongs to the school that believes Governments are there to look after the poor and needy! Surely he realises Governments (of whatever colour) are there to get the economy right? If they can do that, most of the poor and needy will be able to look after themselves. Whether or not Governments DO get the economy right is, of course, another issue. But until they do, there must always be poor and needy. Re Frau Merkel. It's not so much texting that makes her unsuitable for high office. It is being naive enough to suppose she can text sensitive information and expect it to remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well, the Yanks are unrepentant, saying everyone's at it, which is probably true. When looking for a needle in a haystack, they're gathering in the haystack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Egbert It about time government realised they are their to look after the people, as it is them that vote them in, people first, and people should be made to vote, as a duty of living in a democracy, To many governments get in because of non voters!!. Governments are their for the people,something the last few governments at least have forgotten. Governments should not put business in front of the need of the people who vote them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Under our current system, the needs of their Party come first, and always will. No Gov is capable of seeing/planning beyond the next election - HS2 is the latest example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Bad example Obs, Hs2 was a Labour idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I know, then the Coalition adopted it, in the belief there was a political concensus on delivering it; which has now dissipated due to growing questions about cost-benefits; and no doubt an eye to the next election. My point is, that the kind of long term decisions the Country requires, such as mega-infrastructure projects, future of NHS, elderly care, education etc etc; can't be delivered by the fickle nature of our partisan politics, with a 5 year time horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Kije Judging by your spelling and grammar, the government needs to put education first! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Egbert I'm dyslexic, And if that the only thing you can hit me with, you might find yourself out of your depth in future debates If you have a problem with the substance of what I wrote go for it, I'm not impressed so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Egbert I'm dyslexic, And if that the only thing you can hit me with, you might find yourself out of your depth in future debates If you have a problem with the substance of what I wrote go for it, I'm not impressed so far. If you're dyslexic; who wrote the above for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 his iPad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 dyslexia lores uk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I don't know why he doesn't go and get help from The National Dyslexics Association... or the DNA as it is known to members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 I wrote it Baz People that have Dyslexia Baz are all different. Wow I can't believe you think if you have dyslexia you can't write. My condition if that is the right word is slight. I only found out though my Daughter who was tested at school, I had no idea. And it has not stopped my Daughter studying to become a nurse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Kije... only having a bit of fun.... if you can't laugh what can you do? Quick Dyslexic Nurse Joke... Two doctors in practice in a small country clinic had to hire a new nursewhen the one they had won the lottery and quit. They interviewed Nurse Nancyand decided to hire her. She had only worked two days when one doctor calledthe other to his office and said that they would have to let Nurse Nancy go."Why, we just hired her?""Well, I think she is dyslexic and get thing backward. I told her to give Mr.Smith two shots of morphine every 24 four hour, but she gave him 24 shots intwo hours and italmost killed him. I told her to give Mrs. Jones an enema every twelve hoursand she gave her twelve in one hour."The doctor have barely finished his reasons when the other doctor rushed outof the room. "Where are you going in such a hurry?" the doctor asked."To see Nurse Nancy, I just instructed her to prick Mr. Hill's Boil!" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 There goes my keyboard! Shouldn't read jokes when drinking tea! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 That is soooooooo funny Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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