skittles Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Surprised the subject has not been raised. Developers want to demolish the building as it needs repairing at a cost of ?120,000, why can they not be told to just repair it and convert the buildings that are alreay there. If they did not want to do that they should not have bught them. If they want shops, restaraunts and bars they should use some of the empty ones that are already in Warrington that are unused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 trouble is skittles; these are developers, not local historians. They look to make the most return on their money....that is what they do. Unfortunately, the big problem here is the council, its lame officers and even lamer councillors who for some reason refuse to stop the erosion of our local history. They allow projects like this to get off the ground instead of just saying no and because they have allowed so much history to be demolished over the years; the developers see Warrington as an easy target.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 If the developers had thought they'd be forced to repair it then they wouldn't have bought it at all, they'd have spent their money on something else somewhere else - simple as that. In that case it would have been left to rot until it fell down anyway. Nobody cared one iota about it all the years it was slowly falling apart, so why all the fuss now someone wants to spend money removing a crumbling wreck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 trouble is skittles; these are developers, not local historians. They look to make the most return on their money....that is what they do. Unfortunately, the big problem here is the council, its lame officers and even lamer councillors who for some reason refuse to stop the erosion of our local history. They allow projects like this to get off the ground instead of just saying no and because they have allowed so much history to be demolished over the years; the developers see Warrington as an easy target.... I are 100% If the developers had thought they'd be forced to repair it then they wouldn't have bought it at all, they'd have spent their money on something else somewhere else - simple as that. In that case it would have been left to rot until it fell down anyway. Nobody cared one iota about it all the years it was slowly falling apart, so why all the fuss now someone wants to spend money removing a crumbling wreck? Again agreed, but someone owned it and it should have been repaired years ago. Occasionally our councilars are proded to stop development. Developers cryed the same story about the Bewsey Hall and St Mary's School in Buttermarket St. There ae alreay loads of empty new shops, bars and restaraunts in the town centre so there is really no need to pull down a listed building for yet more of the same. I do not get it from the developers point, a old building like that makes a far more pleasant bar/restaraunt then some new build. Then there is the enviromental damage of demolition and using new, scares materials, to put up yet more uneeded premisses. Force the owners to repair the current building and put it to use. The council have the power to make repairs and invoice the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 As has previously been noted, developers are solely interested in making money. An ancient building needing repair will cost far more than knocking it down and building something new. If the original owners had maintained the building it wouldn't be in such a state of disrepair and presumably people were not interested enough to question this maintenance until a situation like this one occurs and they suddenly decide the building should be saved. I don't have a particular view either way, but I do think that if you leave it until such a late stage to protest, the developers have almost won already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I don't have a particular view either way, but I do think that if you leave it until such a late stage to protest, the developers have almost won already. It is the council duty to see listed builings are maintained I would love to save Warrington Baths, but how does one start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 It is the council duty to see listed builings are maintained Then locals with an interest in history should have been canvassing their councillor well before now! As to Warrington Baths, I think you missed the bus on that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Surprised the subject has not been raised.. It was raised skittles.. It went a little off track a little but quite a discussion all the same but not very obvious due to the topic title. http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17456&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I would love to save Warrington Baths, but how does one start? You would have to start with a pile of bricks I'm afraid..... they started demolishing it last week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I would love to save Warrington Baths, but how does one start? You would have to start with a pile of bricks I'm afraid..... they started demolishing it last week! OH no, I had this dream of turning it into a leisure centre, getting on board Camrons big Britain of saving it. Maybe I wil sneak in at night and put the bricks back What are they building on there, the medical centre that was due to go there isn't going to be built, so I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Again, I think you are wrong. The new NHS centre is to be built on the site to replace the Garven Place medical centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I would love to save Warrington Baths, but how does one start? You would have to start with a pile of bricks I'm afraid..... they started demolishing it last week! OH no, I had this dream of turning it into a leisure centre, getting on board Camrons big Britain of saving it. Maybe I wil sneak in at night and put the bricks back What are they building on there, the medical centre that was due to go there isn't going to be built, so I believe. Good to see that someone who claims to care about local heritage is so well informed and up to speed on the subject!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Skittles, if you are going to crusade to save Warrington's heritage then perhaps you should consider changing your nom de plume as there are a load of 'skittles' in the town centre that are a disgrace to the town and I certainly would not wish to associate myself with those 'shiqquwts'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Skittles, if you are going to crusade to save Warrington's heritage then perhaps you should consider changing your nom de plume as there are a load of 'skittles' in the town centre that are a disgrace to the town and I certainly would not wish to associate myself with those 'shiqquwts'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 There is always one who thinks they are some sort of smart alic I admit I do not follow the news as closely as I should sometimes but I get busy, but at least I care and do try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 The wise man always fights from a position of strength and knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Well the meeting to decide the towers fate was on Thursday according to the news pages earlier in the week. ... was it refused then and is the tower staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 ......until it falls down of it's own accord! Let's face it, it might be a piece of the town's heritage and all that - but as a building it's UGLY!!! No-one is going to pay hundreds of thousands to restore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Who thinks this tower should be saved and if so, why? Photo taken in 1908. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Could you two not sleep .... your posting times are very early especially for a Sunday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Just checking in while I had my morning coffee before coming to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Could you two not sleep .... your posting times are very early especially for a Sunday morning Early to bed early to rise, the best time of the day is early morning Dizz when there's only me and the Lancashire pigeons about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Hi Dizzyhope you've caught up with your sleep - some people say that Joni Mitchel had something to do with the Tower being saved for the moment at least. http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/joni-mitchell-saves-northern-towns-historic-water-tower :lol: But either way here is a link to her playing Bige Yellow Taxi for Joni fans like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Nice one..... all that needs to happen now is that the bloody councillors get off their arses; realise that bike lanes and bus stops don't bring jobs and prosperity to the town and build some proper wide roads like they have in Halton..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Is that Halton, Runcorn who are showing a big town like Warrington how to do things properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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