observer Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Thought we'd got rid of the Nanny State at the last election - but it seems it's still with us. The Gov are talking of removing fag packets from display in shops and even having them in plain wrappers. Any kid will go into a shop to buy fags cos s/he's a nicotine addict NOT cos they're on display - just where are these screwball ideas coming from? If they want to ban them - just do it, and stop faffing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I am a smoker and the proposals do not bother me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Another U-turn. The CONservatives voted against this proposal when in opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think your shift button is sticking Wolfie  I don't know what the politicians are smoking these days but it's not tobacco, it's something a lot more mind altering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sex is next on the agenda, that's bad for your health, well, the Mrs says it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I think she means with somebody else instead her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Another U-turn. The CONservatives voted against this proposal when in opposition.  They probably found that they had no choice as long as we're in the EUSSR:  http://ec.europa.eu/health/tobacco/docs/tobacco_consultation_en.pdf  We are ruled by Brussels, the toy Parliament in Westminster can only rubber stamp what the Commisars decree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Putting tobacco under the counter comes from the UK government, not the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 If it was going to stop youngsters from starting to smoke I would agree with it, but most will be copying parents or friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Putting tobacco under the counter comes from the UK government, not the EU Â The point I'm making is that these measures are pre-empting the probable directives which the EUSSR is considering i.e. plain packaging with just warnings and information, and a ban on shop displays. Vending machines are banned in a lot of EUSSR countries and this is another proposal our masters in Brussels are considering. Watch this space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 If it was going to stop youngsters from starting to smoke I would agree with it, but most will be copying parents or friends! Â I agree with you SL. people don't impulse buy tobacco products, most people start (as I did) because of family and friends smoking not because of advertising on racing cars or shop displays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 What gets me is this niggling and constant pecking around the issue by these health facists. If they had the b*lls to introduce an outright ban on the sale and distribution of fags, I might have some respect for them. As it is, all they are doing is creating (legal) "forbidden fruit" for kids to consume as an act of rebellion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 No government is going to kill off a cash cow that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Which merely highlights the utter hypocracy of it all - plus it definately would cause riots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Could it be the Uk government pushing the EU on this asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 That would certainly be a first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Would it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 If the health facists gave up on their crusade for human immortality, folk wouldn't live as long and the pensions debate and elderly care would cease to be issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm with you Obs. Encourage drinking and smoking. Tax revenues would go up, everyone would die young and the NHS would be quids in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 People who don't drink, only eat healthy food and never smoke don't live any longer.... Â .......it just FEELS like longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 People who don't drink, only eat healthy food and never smoke don't live any longer.... .......it just FEELS like longer.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 It's all part of life's contradictions - solve one problem and you open up another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 People who don't drink, only eat healthy food and never smoke don't live any longer.... Â .......it just FEELS like longer. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Living "longer" seems to be the objective of the health facists - but if that means increasing infirmity and dependency levels - arn't we just making a rod for our own backs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Is this a volunteer for euthanasia I see before me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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