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harry hayes
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until it comes to themselves.

 

My favourite saying. Should we be the slightest bit surprised that Mr Clegg, an atheist and an apparent opponent of faith schools wants to send his child to an elite catholic school?

 

Everyone wants to do their best for themselves or their own. Personally, I don't blame him, but there will be others who think it wrong.

 

Happy days

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No, we should not be surprised, If we lived in a socialist State all the school would be equal, You can knock Russia for a lot of things but they had good schools and it did not matter where you lived. Have a look at Cuba's health system considered to be one of the best, and you can thank them for Laser eye surgery that a lot of people like these days :wink:

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Harry

My father-in-law had a similar favourite saying: Socialism would be a fine thing if we were not all Conservatives at heart.

 

Funny thing is, he was as near to the perfect Socialist I have ever come across but he voted Tory all his life!

 

Kije

Was it not the case that all things were equal in Soviet Russia - but some were more equal than others?

 

Medical breakthroughs, whether in Cuba or elsewhere, are achieved through the genius of individuals, not through political systems.

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When I was a youngster very few working class children went on to university, I new of only one lad who was exceptionally brilliant and went to Oxford. I personally believe in freedom of choice, thought, movement and action by any nationality, colour or creed with the proviso that it must not adversally either directly or indirectly affect others.

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We did have a wonderful education system in this country but as has been pointed out, it has been dumbed down to allow the thick kids a chance at a Uni education.

 

As the yanks say, you can put lipstick on a pig; but it will still be a pig!

 

I went to grammar school but decided I didn't want to go to Uni. My sister who is now 57 went to the high school and went on to get two degrees at uni and was a succesful teacher until MS got the better of her. We weren't rich either. We lived in Bewsey, dad worked at Crosfields and mum was a dinner lady so I think u need to come down to earth Kije and realise that the clever kids did make it to Uni if they wanted to go...

 

I still can't see the point of giving someone the opportunity of going to uni; wasting all that money to do so, when deep down, you know he is a thicko and would be better off getting a job and earning money and paying tax.

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Some do escape Baz, but its not the norm and you know it, we need a leval playing field when it comes to education, at the moment if you can afford it a public school education is a ticket to a high paid job, that is not open to most, as I said before the Russians managed a good education system, where the bright went to university irrelivant of how rich they were, if they did it I am sure we can if we wanted to, but the priveliged few hold power and they are not willing to let go.

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One of the main reasons people are rich is because they are successful and they are successful because they are bright - at least at something. Therefore it will never be the "norm" for most people to go to university, or even do well at school, because most people are not very bright.

 

Incidentally, would Kije care to tell us what sort of an education he had, in view of his spelling on this thread?

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Egbert one of your hit and run posts again.

 

If you are rich, you are more mobile so you can move to where the good schools are, and in so doing give your kids a leg up. So having money is a definite advantage in our education system.

 

 

 

I went though school not knowing I am slightly dyslexic, I only found out about 10 years ago, As some of my posts are done using my phone I cannot spell check them, Are you going to stay and fight your corner or shall we see you in about 3 weeks. :wink:

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Egbert, I know what you are saying, but I'm not sure 'bright' is the word you need. Those who have an ability in anything, such as being a good electrician or a good carer/nurse are not necessarily 'bright' in the accepted sense (academically), but do apply themselves and have a passion for what they are doing. That is half the battle. To become rich in whatever field you choose needs the will to succeed plus the passion and some measure of ability.

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Egbert one of your hit and run posts again.

 

If you are rich, you are more mobile so you can move to where the good schools are, and in so doing give your kids a leg up. So having money is a definite advantage in our education system.

 

 

 

I went though school not knowing I am slightly dyslexic, I only found out about 10 years ago, As some of my posts are done using my phone I cannot spell check them, Are you going to stay and fight your corner or shall we see you in about 3 weeks. :wink:

 

That's a political swerve. :roll::lol:

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You seem to have a hangup Kije with anyone who has money. So what if people inherit money? Why do you always have a downer on people with money?

 

If some long lost relative died and left you a few million, would you hand it out like a good little socialist? would you bugger

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