Dizzy Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Those of you who are local will know who I mean. Considering the 2 year CRASBO that he was given last September which is supposed to run until September next year which bans him from drinking and dancing etc etc etc in the area he has reappeared seeming worse than ever I have nothing against this guy and have spoken to him many times in the past ... but he does scare me a bit now and from what I've seen of him over the past week he WILL cause an accident in his present state of mind. He was really bad today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Was he up the drag again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Dancing in town centre at 7am today... Stockton Heath swing bridge at 10am ish then up near the Stag at Walton all afternoon again looking even worse for wear and in the middle of the road when I saw him ..... then Chester Road later on at tea time near the car wash on his way back to town apparently. He was near the Stag the other night too sat on the floor.. luckily for the teenagers who were laughing at him he couldn't get up to give them the wack they probably deserved Seen the police with him quite a few times too but it doesn't seem to stop him but cant help but wonder what the point of giving him a CRASBO was in the first place. I do feel sorry for him but he just doesn't seem to want to be helped and like I said he seems a lot worse now. Sad :cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Yep, saw him meself on that little triangle of grass yesterday evening by the Stag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinsider Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Why isn't this guy just locked up in Hollins Park and someone throw away the key? Oh sorry forgot about care in the community. Sooner or later he will kill himself or more worringly an innocent passerby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I was talking to him at weekend for over half an hour. He was sat under a tree sheltering from the rain on our road. He had been moved on for playing his guitar near the village, which upset him and then a bloke had a right go at him for dropping a bit of paper..... which upset hime even more and he kept apologising. He actually started crying twice when I was talking to him (was it something I said )... anyway after playing me a few songs and having a big heart to heart about the world, war, starving kids, alcohol, anxiety etc he cheared up and gave me a hug I am an inspiration to him apparently and he's going to write about me in his book By his own admission he suffers from anxiety, depression and is a chronic alcoholic and he wishes he could stop drinking but he can't. He actually seems a very caring man, is fantastic at drawing, carries a bible round with him and from the sounds of it has seen some rough and heartbreaking things in his life It's such a shame that there is no-one or nowhere to help people like Chris (we are now on first name terms )... but then again maybe he doesn't really want helping as it's the life he now knows and he also knows he's screwed it up..... which is why when money was raised for him he asked for it to be given to the a local children's appeal instead. But having said all that ... yes he does still scare me when he is very drunk and I wouldn't dare talk to him then and yes he may cause an accident through his dancing as it is a distraction to those who are not used to seeing him ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 The system doen't cater or care about people like that. Winwick might have been old-fashioned, but at least it was sanctuary. Shame on you Dizzy for scaring him and making him cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 The system doen't cater or care about people like that. Winwick might have been old-fashioned, but at least it was sanctuary. I agree Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I agree too Shame on you Dizzy for scaring him and making him cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I understand that the authoriies have offered to help Chris but he doesn't want to be helped, so he keeps on moving around, being arrested, dried out and then just returns to his preferred lifestyle. I wonder how much this is costing the rate-payers each time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 He refuses help now because he knows he can't be helped as every time he has been he's always fallen back to his way of living as it's only a short term drying out fix... so he'd rather money was spent or help given to others instead. Suppose you can see his point really as it can take years for a cronic alcoholic to get 'better' even if they really want to and that's will full time support which obviously is not an option for him. Anyway such is life eh and I'm sure he doesn't cost us rate payers a lot really compared with some other peoples antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 There but for the grace of God! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Eh ? Anyone seen him in the past week as he seems to have suddenly disapeared again. He was contravening his CRASBO conditions by dancing etc though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Saw him on Wednesday sat on the bench opposite the Halo Club complete with his bags and belongings? iam i right in believing that much of this is down to a great tradgedy in his life where someone he was with died suddenly and are buried/cremated at Walton Lea hence he is often seen in that area opposite the crematorium ? I wonder what he has been through that has led to his current situation?? Life is cruel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I heard he is a Faulklands veteran who could not adjust. I do feel sorry for him in some ways, but equally, when he is drunk he can be very nasty (personally, I have had rude comments directed at me without provocation) and needs to be dealt with in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 He was walking towards Taylor St. from the Stag side, as I turned in there about 10 am this morning. Not singing or even dancing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Not like him not to be singing and dancing Indy I think it was his mum and sister who died although I thought they were buried up at Hill Cliff and yes thats apparently why he choses to live in his tent up Walton drag... so he can see them When I taked to him the other week he told me that he is an ex marine and got quite upset about the yougsters of today who think joining the forces and being trained up is sort of 'cool' and a good career path. He vividly remembers the shear horror of having to pick dead and severely injured women and children up of the streets and said until they have to do that themselves they have no idea what war is really like He said 'what is it [war] all for and WHY.. ?' Then he cried Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bick Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I understand that the authoriies have offered to help Chris but he doesn't want to be helped, so he keeps on moving around, being arrested, dried out and then just returns to his preferred lifestyle. I wonder how much this is costing the rate-payers each time? a few quid more than likely.... nothing to get excited about anyway... there are far far bigger wastes of money going on in this town than "helping" this chap out every now and again. when he is drunk he can be very nasty (personally, I have had rude comments directed at me without provocation) and needs to be dealt with in some way. to be fair in respect of "being dealt with for being drunk" he's at the back end of a very long queue in this town.... I'm not aware he's been involved in drunken brawls down Bridge st or outside the Mullberry tree.... or is he not good for house prices over the water..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 He has been arrested for brawling with police and cars, not sure where in particular, but does that matter? Anyone who behaves objectionably through drink, wherever it happens, should be dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 But since the Tories shut the Hospitals, there are very few places to treat him, so he will end up in the Prison system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 You're right Kije, but if someone doesn't benefit from being 'dried out', it seems a waste of money to put them there in the first place. I don't know what the answer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 As I think Peter said earlier,The hospitals were not perfect, but some one like him could have been locked up in one, so he could not damage himself or more importantantly anyone else. Its down to money in the end, how much value do we put on a human life, either the person who is ill or the person they might hurt or kill if left out on the streets. I will be honest I do not like the idea of locking someone up who is ill for the rest of their lives but at the end of the day what else can we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 He has been arrested for brawling with police and cars, not sure where in particular, but does that matter? Anyone who behaves objectionably through drink, wherever it happens, should be dealt with. A good way for him to get shelter for the night. The obvious isn't always the reason. I have not heard that he actually "hit" any police officers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 Peter he did once hace a scuffle with a couple of officers when they tried to arrest him and they had to pin him to the floor but that was a long time ago He also had a rather heated vocal conversation from a distance with some officers near the skittles in Warrington a year ago (prior to getting his CRASBO) I think he's mellowed a bit now though silverlady54 I'm suprised that he was rude to you without any provocation as he has always been polite (in a drunken way ) whenever I've seen or spoken to him over the past year. He can be a bit vocal with those who are vocal to him though and he did have a few 'words' to say to a group of teenagers (but nothing too OTT) a month ago but they actually deserved it and I would have given them a thump for their appauling behaviour if they had done it to me Good job he didn't though as he's a big chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 15, 2010 Report Share Posted October 15, 2010 He was having a drunken rant at the time, sat on a bench just opposite our house as I got out of my car and went into the house. I don't know if someone had complained about him to the police but he definitely was directing his comments about people in big houses at me!! It isn't a very nice experience to feel threatened outside your own house and I wasn't going to confront him. (It wasn't a big house anyway!) I have never rung the police to complain about him as I have some sympathy with him, although my tolerance was stretched at times after 3 hours of hooting from passing motorists! I have also seen the other side of him when he asked for a length of string to keep a stray dog safe one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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