observer Posted July 18, 2010 Report Share Posted July 18, 2010 Sure we could all do with a cut BUT: will it result in more responsible salaries at the BBC or just even more dumbed down programming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Apart from Top Gear.... does anyone watch the BBC these days and is it worth all that money we have to pay? Personally I would say no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 The BBC is a monopoly and as far as I am aware none of the other independents get any of the license fee? The money they receive is guaranteed, unlike the ITV?s of this world, the revenue that it receives from the license fee payer is far too extortionate, I agree that the license fee should be reduced not by a miserly ?1 or ?2 but at least by 20% or 30% and at the same time reduce the appearance fee?s, celeb?s wages and the bonuses that the fat cats at the BBC get by the same amount and if they complain let them got to the independent broadcast companies, they will not be missed, I am sure they are enough unemployed who would work for the BBC for a fraction of the wages they receive. The BBC seem to be only answerable to themselves, they should be more accountable to the to the public for churning out dross and more antique, moving house and food type programmes daily and then to be repeated many times, it must get to a point where we are due a rebate on our license fee. Not only are there too many TV programmes they are too many radio stations to, surly most of these can be provided by the independent sector and at less cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Top Gear is for the feeble of thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Personally, I'd say that advert free coverage of the Grand Prix and major football and rugby matches, plus Radios 2, 4 and 5live to listen to in the car, and the BBC news website, are worth ?145 a year on their own. (don't forget that ITV cut it's HD channel to a commercial and ruined most of it's viewers enjoyment of the game because they missed England's goal against the USA) I know plenty of people who moan about a licence fee of just over ?10 a month - for as many TV's as you want - but then pay four times that much for a Sky subscription on just one TV and still complain that there's nothing worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 It could be worse, we could have to pay a license fee AND endure adverts on all channels like they do in the Republic of Ireland But the BBC does suffer from overmanning - witness all the personnel that went to South Africa for the World Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Apparently the BBC employed over 750 of its staff to broadcast the 2010 Isle of Wight Music Festival. BBC TV Licence fee: ?142.50 BBC Celeb earns: ?1,000000 per year It takes approx? 7,017 licence fee payers to fund this wage Is it worth it? RE: Top Gear. Inane drivel presented by 3 contrived, pretentious over-hyped, over broadcasted trio on TV, what could be a good car programme spoiled by three for the want of other words?presenters. I would be good to see more information on the cars rather than just the top speed or torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Your right Sue: they could employ "unknowns" as presenters, we'd soon get used to them, and as soon as they got too big for their boots by asking for big fees, just change them - I see Woss has finally gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Top Gear is for the feeble of thought. Your signature reads: Is that the ghost of Brian Bevan I see weeping? Ghosts don't exist and if they did they certainly wouldn't be weeping..... feeble of thought? I guess so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 To appreciate anything higher than the Jerremy Kyle show or Big Brother, would take an elightened audience, so maybe it's our education system that's to blame?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Top Gear is for the feeble of thought. Your signature reads: Is that the ghost of Brian Bevan I see weeping? Ghosts don't exist and if they did they certainly wouldn't be weeping..... feeble of thought? I guess so Are you seriously suggesting I'm claiming to have observed the ghost of Brian Bevan in tears ? Ever heard of something called humour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Whether or not individuals on here like Top Gear is pretty irrelevant to a discussion on the merits of the licence fee. Over 4 million licence fee payers like it enough to have watched it last week (4.03 million, according to BARB). That makes it just about the highest rating TV programme - on ANY channel - which is not either a soap or a sports event. So it's actually a perfect example of a public service broadcaster using the licence fee to give its audience what it wants. At less than 50p per household per day I'd say that if there was just a couple of hours worth of programming each week which I enjoyed or found useful, then it's still pretty good value for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 At less than 50p per household per day I'd say that if there was just a couple of hours worth of programming each week which I enjoyed or found useful, then it's still pretty good value for money. I want my 50p back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Are you seriously suggesting I'm claiming to have observed the ghost of Brian Bevan in tears ? well that is what it says!!.... he must have been famous though, he has a whole traffic island named after him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Well I think Top Geat is GREAT As for the TV licence it's one of those anoying rip offs that frustrates me as you have to have one wether you watch BBC or not. Oh well such is life. They are free when you are 75 though and half price if you a registered as blind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 I agree with inky pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 19, 2010 Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 Top Gear is a money spinner for the BBC being one of the programmes watched all over the world (except the USA apparently ) with repeats on cable seemingly all day every day. I like it by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2010 btw, we pay for the private sector channels too; through the costs of advertising on the commodities we buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 The BBC is far from perfect and the payment of huge fees to some so called "celebrities" is obscene. But it is still the best broadcaster in the country and probably in the world. If you find yourself watching other channels more often than the BBC then I seriously suggest there is something wrong with you! If you actually PAY extra to watch them, then I am afraid the matter is beyond all doubt! I remember years ago, before subscription TV was generally available, a friend complained that he was going to have to pay a subscription to watch a specialist boxing channel. I pointed out that if he, and all other boxing fans, refused, it would continue, financed by advertising alone as it had in the past. Same would have happened with Sky. But the world is full of mugs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 yer can say that again, there's one born every minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 I want my 50p back! Then get rid of your TV's and watch everything online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Watching 'live' programmes online still requires a TV licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 20, 2010 Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Watch them later on then. Or via an overseas proxy server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2010 Does it not cost money to "go online"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 No extra money. I think it's fair to say that most people reading this thread will in fact already be "online". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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