observer Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Anyone know just what the French are playing at ? Seems Sarkosy & Co are threatening to tear up the mutually agreed Treaty between France and the UK, which allows UK passport control at Calais, successfully blocking the onward route to Britain by illegal migrants. Common sense suggests that, in line with the Dublin Convention, wannabee asylum seekers apply for asylum in the first EU Country that they enter, which suggests that the French should round up the 10,000 in Calais and thousands elsewhere in France, to process asylum applications. If they fail approval or if they refuse to apply in France (cos they want to get to the UK); then logic suggests they are then deported asap to the Countries from which they came. Now what's so hard about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeborn John Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Sarkosky is giving it the big one in the run up to the forthcoming French presidential elections. Good luck with that, he's so Clintonequely bent he can't lie straight in bed, and the press are on to him, prison awaits...if there's any justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 There doesn't seem to be any logic applied to illegal immigration anywhere in the world (apart from in the third world countries where immigration doesn't exist - only emigration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 The concern is, that the true extent of the problem is being hidden from the British public. An FOI request has just disclosed that 27,000 "illegals" have been "arrested" by UK Police over the last 3 years; but there the news tracking seems to stop. Most arrests are being made at M/Way service stations, presumably illegals are then brought before a Magistrate, but then what?  Are they detained and put on the next flight home, or are they given bail and disappear into the crowd? Do they, with the eager assistance of HR Lawyers, apply for asylum, and then kept by the tax-payer in LA housing for years while a legal aid supported case is pursued ?  Of those arrested, how many actually finish up being deported ? The results would indicate a net importation of illegal migrants into the UK, being shrouded in secrecy by HMG. And this isn't going away; 6,500 Africans "rescued" the other day and landed in Italy; will they be repatriated or will they be allowed to roam throughout Europe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Methinks M.Sarkozy should try to find out why immigrants are breaching EU borders with the wider world & not being detained in these countries of entry for repatriation if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Well, they (the French Gov), are now talking about bulldozing the migrant camp. BUT, unless they detain, process and deport over 10,000 migrants first; all this will do is disperse the problem and antagonise even more communities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 What's the problem? Why is it, that authorities agonise for ever over such issues ? Simple: the migrants in the Calais camp have done half the work already, by congregating in a small area; what the Police might call kettling. So: start building a fence around the site, protected by a Police cordon (to prevent escapes), then start systematically arresting the illegal migrants in small groups for transfer to purpose built detention and processing centres, ready for deportation. At one flight home per day, this should take around 100 days to clean up the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Would that it were that simple obs. You are forgetting the main bottle neck to such a system. Human Rights Lawyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 I wonder what the good burghers of Brussells think about what problems their borderless creation has caused. These people should be the ones sorting out this mess, instead they are conspicuous by their absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Fair point Sid, but I think the HR lawyers would be circling the processing camps, to explain to the French Authorities, why their clients have spent years in France, without applying for assylum there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 The amazing thing about HR lawyers is that they only offer services in environments where their  clients stand a good chance of winning. I doubt these firms have branches in Iran, Saudi ,Syria & ISIL held communities, to mention but a few countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 We could always send a few over with the failed asylum seekers. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Seems Trump isn't the only one intending to build a wall - according to press reports, the UK is funding the building of a 13ft wall alongside the main M/Way into Calais, to stop the migrants getting to the lorries ! Why not use Police HGVs disguised as commercial vehicles, let the migrants sneak on board, then take them to the detention centre, prior to their flight home ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 simpler than taking them to a detention centre ship them back to where they came from before opening the containers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Good idea Sid, but that would mean shipping them out by sea ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 So they get a nice cruise holiday before being dumped. Anyway containers float don't they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016  Anyway containers float don't they  Only until they fill with water and sink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Perhaps newly retired Asperity could be the captain of SS Repatriation ,running cruises from France to the Middle East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Think we have enough maritime personel on the job, at the moment. Problem is, they are taking these migrants in the wrong direction - another 100,000 this year, delivered to Italy and allowed to roam the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Perhaps newly retired Asperity could be the captain of SS Repatriation ,running cruises from France to the Middle East.  Retired means retired forever. No more ships for me thank you very much :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 so it will mean long time no sea then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 so it will mean long time no sea then. I saw what you did there Sid, splitting my sides :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 LOL.... A Dutch truck driver noticed immigrants trying to reach England by hiding in his truck. He took them for a drive trough France and told them they arrived in England ..... NOT ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 We can't deport illegal immigrants apparently, but one rule for us and another for others: Â http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-pakistan-afghanistan-refugees-20160831-snap-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Still bemused by the French lack of action on this matter: these "illegal" migrants can apply for asylum in France, if they fail or if they won't apply for asylum, then surely they can be deported ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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