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Interesting prog from Dan Snow tonight about the history of Syria, which showed just how complex and multi-layered the current situation is; and certainly not one for William Hague to allow us to get sucked into.  The present is a result of history - the future by our capacity to learn from it.

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big problem is that we in the west help these so-called democracy movements to overthrow a dictator and help into power some mad muslim driven group who hate the west even more....

 

look at Libya; and in particular Benghazi, only recently there were islamic groups threatening UK workers with such conviction that the UK government advised UK workers to get out of the area as soon as possible..... so that is the thanks you get..... we should try arming both sides.... less people to hate us whatever the outcome then!! :lol:

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Think perhaps, it was a case of "the Devil you Know" - the existing "Dictators", were basically secular, keeping a rein on sectarian extremes and much more manageable from a Western perspective.  We,ve now got sectarian strife that makes the Ulster "troubles" look like a holiday camp.

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It gets complicated Asp, but - in the case of Syria, Assad holds together an anti-Sunni coalition. The Sunni's are the running dogs of the Saudis, who are currently arming and funding the sectarian element of the opposition. The Saudi's have the oil and funds to buy OUR aircraft etc, and thus influence. On the other hand, Assad was trained in Russia and views them as an ally; but perhaps worse for him, although a secular dictator (who happens to be married to a Sunni), some of his coalition are Shias, who just happen to be influenced by Iran (the current bogey man).

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So did I, maybe he's got more than one - being a Muslim has certain benefits Baz!

 

You are joking.... can you imagine being nagged by two women or even more???

 

Mind you, the muslim bloke is in charge in their relationship so no arguments and many benefits perhaps??

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What is in our best interests ? Do we need tyrants running these countries who will trade their oil & other goods with us & who will buy arms from us to keep his people in check &  maintain borders & keep not just a country  but a whole region stable? On the other hand ,do these countries need to be liberated  so various religious factions can takeover & fight among themselves, destabilising regions &  allowing terror groups to takeover ? The rot started in Iran with the fall of the Shah & then Iraq & if the domino effect is allowed to continue where will the world end up. I know it might not be pc for the west to behave like it does towards certain countries  but to take the lid off Pandora's Box would be unthinkable. The west needs to think about its own citizens first & foremost .

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I thought assads wife was British?

That was King Hussein of Jordan's second wife (Toni Gardiner). Assad only has one wife, and she isn't British.

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