observer Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 The idea of prosecuting ex-British soldiers for murder during the Bloody Sunday massacre after 40 years; appears somewhat bizare in the light of amnesties granted to the IRA for their crimes. So should an amnesty apply to all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Are they prosecuting, I heard they were going to investigate, and they hadn't got the money to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 If the real culprits were found out, it would be interesting to see who would end up in jail. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 Not sure what you mean Harry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 If the real culprits were found out, it would be interesting to see who would end up in jail. Happy days If you know the real culprits why don't you assist the investigation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 All I am saying is that the fault didn't appear to be 100% on the army, although the flack invariably is. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 this is history now let it be find something useful to do and stop filling the pockets of solicitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Totally agree with you Wahl, this is now history. What I don’t get is how anyone can say the process will take thirty full time officers four years to complete? The pardons and apologies for what happened in a confused situation forty years ago have been made and that should be an end to it. There we go, I’ve done it single handed in two minutes. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Whatever happens, I do not think closure will happen. So is their any point?. How about doing what happened in South Africa after apartite, where people could speak freely without fear of prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 It was called a "truth and reconcilliation tribuneral", not sure it's worth the expense or the raking over of old coals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 People must be pushing for the investigation, A truth and reconciliation tribuneral might take the sting out of it. It is easy as British to say move on, as we are likely to be on the wrong side of an investigation. If their was safety from prosecution, the truth might just will out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 They've already had a full Public Inquiry, which got down to the truth of things - problem is the locals want vengence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Perhaps Obs, but the truth might help, they would not see it as revenge they would see it as justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Like all the IRA victims have received justice? And how far back do we go; to King Billy and the Battle of the Boyne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 So because many IRA victims have not received justice, it makes it ok for army victims not to have any Obs.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Equal and fair treatment would suggest all or none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Justice in your world Obs, would never work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Justice that is applied unequaly - isn't justice imo; as we can see from the different response to the rioters and the Bankers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 The march was for civil rights Obs, it was not an IRA march, so people who died in the march had nothing to do with the IRA. So are you saying they should not be given justice? I am against prosecuting anyone from the army, I think the victims should be given the truth, and from the British point of view we need to no what went wrong. The only way that will happen is if people can speak freely without fear of prosecution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 There's been a full public inquiry, which ruled that the marchers were unlawfully killed - as were every victim of IRA bombings. It's a standard tactic of insurgents to use such "peacefull" demos, as a cover for their operations; precisely to get "innocent" folk killed and thus turn against the forces of law and order. Sometimes, it's better to let sleeping dogs lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Many people from the army did not take part in the enquiry Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 so people who died in the march had nothing to do with the IRA. Considering those people are dead, how does anyone know that they had nothing to do with the IRA? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Some might have to be fair Wolfie, but Obs was writing them all off with afew strokes of his key board.It was a civil Liberties march not an IRA march. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Frankly, given the conditions at the time; it seems idiotic to have held such a march, and I'm surprised the authorities allowed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Well they let the orange order march every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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