boris1066 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 WBC has been outed by the Tax Payers Alliance as having the highest number of officials earning over £100,000 a year !! Seems an awful lot of dinero is bein spent on te wrong things ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well we don't want them all escaping to the private sector do we <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Parish Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Finance/Statement_of_Accounts_2010-2011.doc (section 35) Disappointing that the media (e.g. Granada News) want to report the erroneous figures even when they've been told they're erroneous. 6 officers in Warrington had salaries over £100,000 last year. Add in employer's pension contributions and another 7 are. Somewhat short of the 34 cited by the Tax Payers Alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well we don't want them all escaping to the private sector do we <_< Oh yes we do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Finance/Statement_of_Accounts_2010-2011.doc (section 35) Disappointing that the media (e.g. Granada News) want to report the erroneous figures even when they've been told they're erroneous. 6 officers in Warrington had salaries over £100,000 last year. Add in employer's pension contributions and another 7 are. Somewhat short of the 34 cited by the Tax Payers Alliance. Six too many! One down, five to go! None of them is worth half the amount they are being paid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 WBC has been outed by the Tax Payers Alliance as having the highest number of officials earning over £100,000 a year !! Seems an awful lot of dinero is bein spent on te wrong things ??? You have to ask yourself the question, would you accept such a salary or would you turn it down for the sake of a principle, now then!, is that such a hard question to answer and would you have to go away and think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 hummmmm, I'll have to think about that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I wouldn't question anyone for accepting it, but you have to question those that offered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 No use questioning those lot you have in Warrington Town Hall. By what I have been reading in the press a lot of people have been doing so and not getting the real answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Finance/Statement_of_Accounts_2010-2011.doc (section 35) Disappointing that the media (e.g. Granada News) want to report the erroneous figures even when they've been told they're erroneous. 6 officers in Warrington had salaries over £100,000 last year. Add in employer's pension contributions and another 7 are. Somewhat short of the 34 cited by the Tax Payers Alliance. The TPA probably used your old database in which case it's upto you guys to make sure it's current and available for your pay masters, the general public,to view. It's notable that some officers expenses actually exceeded their base salary. Its also apparent that seemingly hardly any of the officers can manage without an assistant !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Finance/Statement_of_Accounts_2010-2011.doc (section 35) Disappointing that the media (e.g. Granada News) want to report the erroneous figures even when they've been told they're erroneous. 6 officers in Warrington had salaries over £100,000 last year. Add in employer's pension contributions and another 7 are. Somewhat short of the 34 cited by the Tax Payers Alliance. I've had a look at the document you posted a link to and I count 19 employees in the "other employees" table receiving over £100,000 in 2010/11 - of whom 6 were agency staff, up from 4 the previous year. And then there's the 13 current fat cats with their noses in the 6 figure trough. I make that 32 different people who - according to it's own accounts - WBC paid in excess of £100,000 each in last year. Add in the pension contributions which have been excluded from the "other employees" table and a few others would pass the £100K threshold, so the TPA figure of 34 looks pretty good to me. That's over 4 million pounds per year of council tax payers money paid to fewer people than you can fit on a bus! AND, then there's 8 "former" staff listed who got over the £100K each when they got their golden parachutes in the previous year. Best part of another million quid gone there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 £40,000 a year should be the MAXIMUM that ANY council worker gets paid.....end of story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 What's wrong with £20k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 http://www.warrington.gov.uk/content_documents/Documents/Finance/Statement_of_Accounts_2010-2011.doc (section 35) Disappointing that the media (e.g. Granada News) want to report the erroneous figures even when they've been told they're erroneous. 6 officers in Warrington had salaries over £100,000 last year. Add in employer's pension contributions and another 7 are. Somewhat short of the 34 cited by the Tax Payers Alliance. Another revelation from the TPA is that WBC pension fund has an £88,000,000 black hole in it !! Whats your spin on that one Steve ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 So can we apply the £40,000 to the private sector too Baz? That would solve the current problem all round! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 If no-one earned more than £40K then we'd ALL have to be paying a 40% tax rate on every penny of it to supply enough revenue! High earners in the private sector contribute lots to the public purse in tax (and, generally, get sacked if they under-achieve), high earners in the public sector do nothing but drain the public purse (and then just move on to another local authority with a golden parachute when their inadequacies are about to be found out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 High earners, especially in the public sector, pay more. But if everyone was on £40k there'd be more folk actually paying the tax they owe, therefore more revenue; unlike the current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Parish Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Another revelation from the TPA is that WBC pension fund has an £88,000,000 black hole in it !! Whats your spin on that one Steve ?? Well, it's not a "revelation" as it's in the Council accounts. The deficit has gone down because investments have done better and should drop further because of the change from RPI to CPI. (I suppose the bulk of these pensions will be for staff who haven't had large salaries, so whether it's fair to cut their pension entitlement is another matter.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Maybe if you didn't pay extortionate salaries to the chief executive and the rest of the top bods, things would get better faster..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Well, it's not a "revelation" as it's in the Council accounts. The deficit has gone down because investments have done better and should drop further because of the change from RPI to CPI. (I suppose the bulk of these pensions will be for staff who haven't had large salaries, so whether it's fair to cut their pension entitlement is another matter.) So the goal posts have been moved to improve the view and even after this sleight of hand the OECD say that there is still a huge £bn 54 black hole in state employees pension funds. It still means that for every £5 in council tax we pay, £1 goes into your pension pot. Perhaps if these funds are brought in to line with the private sector, employment in the public sector won't be so attractive and would produce a reduction of staff without the expense of redundancy cost to the tax payer. I guess that might seem a bit radical but I am a Daily Mail reader !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Maybe if you didn't pay extortionate salaries to the chief executive and the rest of the top bods, things would get better faster..... Not just WBC, apparantly Halton have 13 over the £140k salary and next year ALL council employees have been told that they will have to work 5 days for nothing, obviously to ensure that the 13 still get their 140k. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Disgraceful...... aren't they a Labour controlled council too??? Amazes me that these hypocrites can claim to be for the working man when taking salaries that their average constituents and voters would have to work 10 years to earn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 Not quite in the Banker's or Footballer's bracket yet then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinsider Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Looks like council trying to save loads of money with the news that Broomhead is returning for six months on a pro-rata salary of just £120,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted May 25, 2012 Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Looks like council trying to save loads of money with the news that Broomhead is returning for six months on a pro-rata salary of just £120,000 The public sector normally go through all sorts of procedures when they recruit - yet it seems that when it comes to the top-paid positions it is just a case of who you know. 1) Was this post advertised? 2) How does this appointment conform to council recuitment procedures - including any involving equality of employment opportunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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