Dizzy Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wonder if this is one of their ways of cost cutting and saving money Wait until they get the bailifs charges :biggrinbounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 As in most organisations, those in charge...the senior officer(s) need to be called to account and explain what has happened. Maybe it is all a big mistake/plan on the part of the landlord, then again maybe not. I knew finances were tight at WBC, didn't think they were that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 May be so...but at the same time, if the real reason is late payment of rent it is a highly irresponsible act by the landlord. It is not as though the money would not eventually be forthcoming. But of course, there could be something more serious going on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Why is it a highly irresponsible act by the landlord ???? why should the council be treated any differently if they don't maintain the rules of a contract ??? if they haven't paid then quite rightly they should suffer the same consequences as any other person/business would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Bit odd though that the bailiffs have closed it and the locks have been changed though. Usual course of action is : 1 polite reminder for payment 2 not so polite reminder then over to debt collectors with 3 polite request for payment 4 not so polite request for payment then if you STILL dont pay.. over to Bailiffs 5 polite(ish) request for full payment immediately 6 possible few days grace whilst you get the money 7 then they take away your goods/close your premises The council must never open their post or answer their phones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Get in the real world, Tony. The council is a blue chip customer, not some fly-by-night likely to disappear. I'm still not convinced we are talking about just a late rent issue. We shall see. However, I am not sure that I agree with the council opening a facility like this in a rented building. I would much sooner have seen it in one owned by the council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wonder if they put Peter Hain in charge of paying the bill?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Perhaps the Finance dept. are unaware of the buildings existence, and returned the bill to the Post Office. Having said that, they are always fairly slow to "part" with money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Methinks the landlord is playing games?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Re Peter Hain comment. Guess when it all comes out in the wash, what has happened will probably be something to do with an arguement with the landlord over some other matter, and the landlord is making a highly visible point. Hope the Council Taxpayer won't be out of pocket. Anyway hope the Chief Exec has been onto this one sharpish. Must admit in my limited dealings with the call centre I've been impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Originally posted by observer: Methinks the landlord is playing games?! About time WBC received a dose of their own medicine Bet there are a lot of people with very big grins on their faces in Warrington today.... :biggrinbounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Originally posted by Egbert: Get in the real world, Tony. The council is a blue chip customer, not some fly-by-night likely to disappear. Wish some of them would do just that Anyway blue chip or no blue chip customer what's the difference? The council should be treated just the same as everyone else is when it comes to unpaid debts... but then again they are in debt more that a lot of normal people... so perhaps the landlord is just worried that he wont get his money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 All the funs over chaps.... It's due to re-open this afternoon and they say it was 'a misunderstanding with the landlord which has been quickly resolved...' [ 18.01.2008, 14:59: Message edited by: Dismayed ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Originally posted by Egbert: Get in the real world, Tony. The council is a blue chip customer, not some fly-by-night likely to disappear. another council loving idiot are you ? [ 18.01.2008, 19:24: Message edited by: tonymailman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reader Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Some time ago did the governmentnot decree that they and all departments, and presume this meant local government had to pay their bills withing X period of time, or have they forgot this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 No, I'm not a council lover and, I trust, not an idiot either. But if I were, it would be better than being a council bashing idiot who bashes without being in full possession of the facts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 shouldn't that be RE-possession Egbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Originally posted by Egbert: No, I'm not a council lover and, I trust, not an idiot either. But if I were, it would be better than being a council bashing idiot who bashes without being in full possession of the facts! Anyway Egbert....... (now that my sense of humour has gone to sleep) I think you'll find that the facts were that the bailiffs were called, changed the locks, notices were put up, workers had to go elswhere for a time and the council office was closed ... So by discussing these facts I guess that means we are not all idiots after all... blah blah blah As for 'council bashing idiots' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 About time WBC received a dose of their own medicine Bet there are a lot of people with very big grins on their faces in Warrington today.... Which will promptly get wiped off when the Poll Tax goes up to pay for the Bailiff's fees! The council will never be out of pocket, while were here to pay for their foibles and follies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 They are putting the poll tax up anyway ... so I'm still grnning. Can you EVER see them NOT increasing it each year anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 OK Dismayed. But how do I, as an ordinary member of this forum, KNOW that what is being put forward as FACT, is in fact, FACT? I find it difficult to believe that there isn't more to this than meets the eye. I can quite believe that the council, like any other large organisations, might be a little tardy in paying its bills and that due to some human error in some department, this particular rental payment might be delayed. What I find it difficult to believe is that the landlord, whoever it is, would take the action described (change the locks, etc) without going through a lengthy procedure first. If such a procedure WAS gone through, I find it incredible that the council didn't cough up. You may be in a position to know the FACTS. I am not. And I certainly would be reluctant to accept them as FACTS on the basis of anything I read on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Spot on Egbert. The jury is still out as far as I am concerned. When we know the details, we can then throw the bricbats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Originally posted by Egbert: OK Dismayed. But how do I, as an ordinary member of this forum, KNOW that what is being put forward as FACT, is in fact, FACT? True in a way... although you can't dispute the FACT that the office was closed, notices put up, locks changed and the Bailifs were called in You could ask Gary and the reporters from other papers who also reported it Originally posted by Egbert: I find it difficult to believe that there isn't more to this than meets the eye. I'm sure there may be after all the council did say it was a 'misunderstanding' Originally posted by Egbert: And I certainly would be reluctant to accept them as FACTS on the basis of anything I read on here! I'll leave that one for Gary to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 When I say I would be reluctant to accept stuff "on here" as facts, I mean The Forum, not the site as a whole. The Forum is a medium for opinion, rather than fact. On its news pages, WWW somewhat guardedly said it was "understood" bailiffs had been called in. Later it attributed its reports to a Town Hall "insider". As I see it, only one FACT has been established. The contact centre was closed. I know nothing about bailiffs, locks being changed, etc. The council has admitted a "misunderstanding", which might mean anything. All I know is that if I was a landlord (and I have been one!) and I had a tenant like a local authority, I would not be calling in bailiffs until things had reached a pretty sorry state of affairs. Indeed, given the short time the council has been in the premises, I don't think I would have called them in yet. Unless, as I say, there is more in this than meets the eye. I would also like to repeat something I said earlier: I would prefer to see the contact centre in a building owned by the council, not one rented. In fact, I think the council should own ALL its buildings. [ 20.01.2008, 17:50: Message edited by: Egbert ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 The council doesn't own ANY buildings .......... it's the council tax payers that own them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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