asperity Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Gordon the Moron has decided that 24 hour drinking is wrong, so it's now being restricted to 21 hours. Pubs and drinking establishments can't open between 3am and 6am. Does anybody know anywhere that was open between those hours anyway? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248654/24-hour-drinking-cut--21-hours-Law-shut-bars-applies-just-hours.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 tesco,asda and the odd 24 hour garage. knew of a few years ago that were "open" at that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Think we had a long running topic on here, when they decided to introduce unrestricted opening hours - and everything opponents said at the time, has come to pass - problem is, saying I told you so doesn't solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Think we had a long running topic on here, when they decided to introduce unrestricted opening hours - and everything opponents said at the time, has come to pass - problem is, saying I told you so doesn't solve the problem. No, but it does highlight the fact that common sense and the people should be listened to before they try to invent the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 As a tee totaller I see nothing wrong in the theory of 24 hour drinking. It works in other countries. The neanderthals in this country were given a chance to behave like sensible adults and THEY failed, not the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I'm with Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 So Wolfie, you wern't aware they were "neanderthals" BEFORE the law was changed? Our "culture" of mindless binge drinking has been here for centuries, hence Lloyd George bringing in the restrictions during WW1 to ensure factory workers turned up for work and didn't cause accidents in the workplace, in the first place. Sadly, our footy fans have now exported "the culture" to Europe, where they are now experiencing "the British problem" in places like Rome. Incompetant liberals like Brown and Co, sadly see the world as they want it to be and react accordingly, rather than recognising the world for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You could argue that Lloyd George started the problem by bringing in restrictions What would you do Obs, make rules that would effect everyone because of a mindless few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 So what was wrong with the outdoor and sensible closing time Loo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Nothing Peter The trouble would come from what people consider sensible, a lot of other Countries seem to manage just fine, I agree we do have a problem over here. But should we let the actions of a few spoil it for the majority than can go out for a night out and not course any mayhem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 It doesn't stop the majority having a good night out. I would suggest that the majority would not want or even need to be drinking after midnight unless it was at home. Wasn't the logic behind 24 hour drinking, that the ale heads would stagger home at staggered times so as not to make life difficult for the police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 That would depend on what age group you asked Peter, if you asked the over 90's they might say 7.30 was a great time to stop, I am in my 40's when I was younger and single I used to like to stop out. I like the majority didn't course any bother. Why should the majority of people have their choice spoiled because of a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 It doesn't stop the majority having a good night out. I would suggest that the majority would not want or even need to be drinking after midnight unless it was at home. I don't have any figures at hand, but as most pubs and clubs rely on the under 25s for the majority of their trade, and they tend to party till they are thrown out, so I'd guess you were worng there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Our "culture" of mindless binge drinking has been here for centuries, According to you in another thread a few months ago, binge drinking only began when the birch was abolished...... and you pointed to the huge increase in binge drinking on the IOM as proof. The useful thing about 24hr opening was the removal of the deadline of 11pm, when everyone had stuck three fast pints down their necks as last orders and then got thrown out. Trouble always ensued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The useful thing about 24hr opening was the removal of the deadline of 11pm, when everyone had stuck three fast pints down their necks as last orders and then got thrown out. Trouble always ensued. So stopping another 4 hrs and 8 pints is better is it? Ask A and E!!!! Fatshaft, I thought the over 50s were the majority. And too encourage the young idiots to drink more and longer and then do untold damage when they leave is sensible in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 young idiots Is this all young people who go out drinking Peter, or a small minority. And people accuse me of sweeping statements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 It depends on what you call going out drinking. Those who use Bridge St come under all. I am sorry if you found my comment to sweeping for self-analysis, I will try to write in simpler terms the next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Insults again Peter Try striving for a bit of balance, Heres a sweeping statement of my own Peter I guess from your comments you are closer to the grave than the cradle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The useful thing about 24hr opening was the removal of the deadline of 11pm, when everyone had stuck three fast pints down their necks as last orders and then got thrown out. Trouble always ensued. So stopping another 4 hrs and 8 pints is better is it? Ask A and E!!!! Being able to stay and drink at a steady rate is better than necking three pints in twenty minutes because you've paid for them, and having people leave at different times reduces the amount of fighting. Ask A&E..... Obviously, not drinking to excess is the ideal solution - but we don't live in an ideal world. The objective is not to stop people drinking, but to stop them getting hurt and hurting other people. To that end, removing the pressure to "drink up" and the mass exodus of aggressive drunks into the streets at a set time seems quite sensible to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Drink problem? What drink problem? I drink. I get drunk. I fall over. No problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The useful thing about 24hr opening was the removal of the deadline of 11pm, when everyone had stuck three fast pints down their necks as last orders and then got thrown out. Trouble always ensued. So stopping another 4 hrs and 8 pints is better is it? Ask A and E!!!! Being able to stay and drink at a steady rate is better than necking three pints in twenty minutes because you've paid for them, and having people leave at different times reduces the amount of fighting. Ask A&E..... Obviously, not drinking to excess is the ideal solution - but we don't live in an ideal world. The objective is not to stop people drinking, but to stop them getting hurt and hurting other people. To that end, removing the pressure to "drink up" and the mass exodus of aggressive drunks into the streets at a set time seems quite sensible to me. Only if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Woh - LP: your at it again, attributing comments to me that I've never made. Still, suppose it makes arguement easier for you to invent what others have said, in order to score a point. If you find time to read history, you'll discover that Samuel Pepys mentioned the gin sodden poor in the streets of London - so the British penchant for boozing is well established, hence Lloyd George's sensible limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Woh - LP: your at it again, attributing comments to me that I've never made. Still, suppose it makes arguement easier for you to invent what others have said, in order to score a point. If you find time to read history, you'll discover that Samuel Pepys mentioned the gin sodden poor in the streets of London - so the British penchant for boozing is well established, hence Lloyd George's sensible limitation. Don't call me a liar. You stated that the Isle of Man had become a binge drinking capital since the abolition of the birch. I argued with you, because drinking to excess has been with us since the day someone discovered fermented fruit was fun. Human nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Seeing your adept at putting quotes up; perhaps you'll provide the quote your quoting - maybe I might consider conceeding the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 You've made more than 23500 posts on this forum. I'd rather apologise than trawl through that lot..... so if I have misremembered and binge drinking is the one social ill you have NOT blamed on the demise of National Service, hanging and severe beatings for everyone under the age of 21, then I am very sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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