observer Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Well Gordy and Dave have drawn up their lines of battle for the May Election: with Dave laying it on the line and promising austerity and a balancing of the books, which as we know will involve cuts in public services, pay and increased taxation. Meanwhile, crafty Gordy is promising a period of "aspiration"; which will involve less pain to the majority. So will folk vote for the hard truth or the more comfortable lie?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Probably vote for more of the same take that any way you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Sorry, which of these career politicians do you believe is telling the truth? The last time I heard a politican tell the truth it was Edwina Currie about salmonella in hens, she did it by mistake and there was uproar. I don't believe a word either of them has to say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 The truth is; we're basically bankrupt, and need to pay ourselves out of the red with taxes or cuts - question is, who's medicine will be easiest to take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Sorry, which of these career politicians do you believe is telling the truth? The last time I heard a politican tell the truth it was Edwina Currie about salmonella in hens, she did it by mistake and there was uproar. I don't believe a word either of them has to say! Â And potentially you have up to six months more of it LP...and yesterday was just the start. Guess the Prime Minister could minimise the "misery" and could call a snap election...it could all be over in about 25 days....the campaigning that is. Â I guess the real truth of the matter is that our country has a very substantial debt, which in fairness to our children, and their children, needs to be reduced. The "argument" will be how it is to be done, and what career politicians need to remember is that voters are not fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Not sure about voters not being fools. Probably 50% of them vote for the same party whatever happens. More will be seduced by bribes, and promising tax increases is a little like asking turkeys to vote for xmas to people who "live for today". That's why Gordon is acting as he does and why Dave is watering everything down. Â Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Unfortunately, the voters are as fickle as footy fans; what's in it for me now and bugger next month or year. As a result the time horizon for politicians is limited to one electoral term, thus no possibility of profound or fundemental long term policies, that may involve even a little hardship. So they'll coat their promises in sugar, and forget about them once the reality of office bites - remember how New Lab promised in their manifesto, a referendum on the Libon Treaty?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 There'll be no early election. Gordon is not a stupid man and he knows that any party that's been in power this long is up against the British tendency to fancy a change. He will hang on as long as he can, unless something occurs that he believes will make him a hero. Ideally, Bin-Laden being found and the announcement that troops can come home. Winning a war is always a good addition to your political CV. Worked awfully well for one or two Tories, anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Unfortunately LP although Edwina thought what she was saying was the truth it was completely wrong and was a disaster for the egg producers of this country. Thats the trouble with politicians, they talk too much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 There'll be no early election. Gordon is not a stupid man and he knows that any party that's been in power this long is up against the British tendency to fancy a change. He will hang on as long as he can, unless something occurs that he believes will make him a hero. Ideally, Bin-Laden being found and the announcement that troops can come home. Winning a war is always a good addition to your political CV. Worked awfully well for one or two Tories, anyway! Â Â I rather think that the US would want to announce that they had found Bin-Laden. Reason it worked for the Tories was that the Falklands was a justifiable campaign and one that commanded near universal support, and to a slightly lesser extent the first Gulf War. Â You are probably right, it is unlikely that there will be an early election, May 6th still looks looks favourite. Â PS And for Mr Brown to be regarded as a hero, he would need a miracle.....and they don't happen....well not to politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Dunno Paul - Nasty Nick's lot got one recently, didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Nothing miraculous at all, merely an outcome of a growing trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 No, Obs, we have no trend towards hating black people. He and his mate dropped incredibly lucky because an unusual number of people thought that abstaining would send a message and picked the one voting opportunity that links to proportional representation. Sheer blind luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 If I wasn't going to bed I would disagree with you LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Well, you can't really fight in flannel pyjamas and bunny slippers, can you? Not in this league, anyway! Sweet dreams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Not luck at all; the trend is for less folk to vote at all cos the the main parties are basically c**p; and for a good slice of mainly ex-Lab voters to vote for Nick. Notice a Commons select cttee, led by Frank Fields has finally come to the conclusion that the UK population should be capped a 70million, wonder how long it will take for the main parties to act on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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