Observer II Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 I approached a guy begging in Sankey St today, and asked him, "Don't the Council run a night shelter?" To which he replied. " It's full of junkies and Rumanians". So I suggested he moves his pitch to the Town Hall steps. For all I know, he could have been a junkie, but if the Council run a night shelter, surely it's supervised and taking drugs on site is banned ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 16 hours ago, Observer II said: taking drugs on site is banned since when has a ban stopped that. smoking is banned on site at the hospital yet you see many a patient stood out side having a smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 It's about supervision and enforcement Sid. Now I don't know, but maybe they want to give druggies a place to shoot up, I don't know, but nowadays it wouldn't surprise me ! It's apparently the case in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 9:46 AM, Observer II said: It's about supervision and enforcement Sid. Now I don't know, but maybe they want to give druggies a place to shoot up, I don't know, but nowadays it wouldn't surprise me ! It's apparently the case in Scotland. odd that you blindly accepted what he said!!, have you any other proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 I didn't "blindly accept" anything, I merely reported what HE said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 3, 2023 Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Observer II said: I didn't "blindly accept" anything, I merely reported what HE said. Yes, you did!!!!, as soon as he mentioned Rumanians, you could not help yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2023 Think your obsessing now - wokey kokey. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 On 12/3/2023 at 10:30 PM, Observer II said: Think your obsessing now - wokey kokey. 😄 No, you would be the one Obsessing, you simply cant help yourself, I'm the one pointing out your Obsession Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Observer II said: Sad. What I'm sad for pointing out your obsession, have you got a problem with your Obsession being talked about???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 Even sadder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Observer II said: Even sadder Oh you don't like your obsession being talked about, better get used to it😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 More pathetic by the hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, Observer II said: More pathetic by the hour. is it making you uncomfortable, having your obsession talked about😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 Your getting really weird now, suggest you see a trick cyclist asap. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 10:57 PM, Observer II said: Your getting really weird now, suggest you see a trick cyclist asap. 😄 Your Obsessing about me now, not just immigrants🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 You wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 You two should grow up and stop this silly name calling. Homeless people on our streets is something nobody wants to see and there needs to be a solution before it gets any worse. I’ve seen first-hand what can happen when the problem isn’t addressed, where whole areas become tent cities full of drug users and down and outs. I don’t know the solution but arguing it like this is a total waste of time and your life. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 I'm afraid we can't rely on politicians to sort it out Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 No, I guess we can’t Obs because spending money to help the likes of beggars, drug users and dare say it, asylum seekers won’t win them any votes. In any case, as far as I know, it’s never been the government’s duty to provide shelter for the homeless, that’s always been done by the church and charitable organisations. I was in Liverpool last week and it was far worse than we see here. Aside from all those in doorways, people with signs were mixing with the traffic at road junctions begging for help, and a high proportion of these all looked foreign. Look into their eyes and you see and sense absolute desperation, then that cynical streak we all have in us kicks in and asks if this is all just part of their act. Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but for sure it’s uncomfortable and you end up looking the other way or pretending you didn’t see them. We took them all off the streets during Covid but just moving them out of sight doesn’t address the reason they are out there. I don’t believe for one moment that that this is a lifestyle choice because nobody in their right mind would choose or prefer to live this way. Bill 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Well, while the Gov and opposition struggle with the issue of housing, and talk only of building on the green belt and flood plains; the answer lies about 20ft above the problem. Instead of folk living rough in shop doorways, perhaps if the upper floors of Town Centre shops were converted into flats, we could re-populate and rejuvenate our decayed Town Centres ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 18 hours ago, Observer II said: Instead of folk living rough in shop doorways, perhaps if the upper floors of Town Centre shops were converted into flats, we could re-populate and rejuvenate our decayed Town Centres ? That would not help the homeless as they tend not to have the money to pay the sort of rent that would be charged for prime town centre flats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 There are plenty of folk who are still living with parents cos they can't afford to buy a house, flats above shops would provide homes to rent, and re=populate Town Centres, providing customers for business. As for the destitute homeless, night shelters/ soup kitchens cold be provided by Local Authorities and Charities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 20, 2023 Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 You’d think unused space above shops would be snapped up by property developers either to sell on or rent out so what’s stopping them from doing this? I can only assume it might be difficult to get planning permission and or maybe some of the buildings might even be listed. The thing is, if work like this is done by property developers rather than some charitable organisation then they’re going to subject to market prices which will put them beyond the reach of those that need the help. Overall it wouldn’t make much of a dent in the numbers of homeless and I doubt it would take any people off the streets. What it would encourage is for places like this to be used as a place to stay during the week rather than commuting and the proof of that is my son does exactly this. His home and family are in Crosby but during the week he stays in a newly built one bed apartment in Warrington. If you’re still talking of people in doorways, then this idea isn’t the answer. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted December 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2023 Well, that sounds like a good eco idea Bill, less pollution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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