Shelley Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 After seeing some of the posts on this, I thought it would be interesting to take a poll on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I do believe in the natural fluctuations of the earth, so the question can be interpreted in several ways. My answer was no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley Posted May 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I do believe in the natural fluctuations of the earth, so the question can be interpreted in several ways. My answer was no.That's fine. I probably should have said "man-made global warming". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Don't worry, folks "should" understand what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 I have to say that the question is wrongly worded. The evidence is that the global temperature on average has been rising since the end of the last ice age. In the last thousand years temperatures have been substantially higher and lower than today. A better question would be "Do you believe that humankind is able to control the climate of the planet?" This is the biggest con ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Chaos Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Fortunately Asp.. from the poll it looks as though people aren't being taken in by the con. and from the election polls it certainly looks as though the general electorate aren't either.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Captain.... Â I have to say a big thanks for pointing me to the Gunga Din site. I have just downloaded "Albert and the Lion"... my dad used to recite this to me when I was a kid and it brings a tear to my eye!! Â Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Chaos Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Baz  It's my pleasure! It brings very happy memories back for me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Anyone watch "Flood" on ITV tonight; second part tommorrow night?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Perhaps the question should be: do you believe that humans should exercise personal responsibility and curtail the greed that is contributing to global warming and the death and destruction of millions of humans and animals every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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asperity Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Perhaps the question should be:do you believe that humans should exercise personal responsibility and curtail the greed that is contributing to global warming and the death and destruction of millions of humans and animals every year. Â What global warming?? It doesn't exist. What we should be concerned about is global cooling and the onset of another ice age which would have much more effect on our existence. Warm temperatures encourage crop growth, ice doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Asperity, They are trying to brush that under the carpet. Shhh. You can't mention that. Questions will be asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Anyone watch "Flood" on ITV tonight; second part tommorrow night?! Â Interesting take on humans. The calculated people who knew what to do, and the knee-jerk reactions of people in control? Â I would suggest that too many people live and work in their little bubbles, without a thought as to what "could" go wrong. Â Rule no.1 "Always be prepared for the unexpected". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Afraid, whilst it was entertaining; it was so full of holes, the water escaped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Like why did everyone head for the underground stations when there was a flood coming? Why not just head for the 2nd floor of a building with a flask and a packet of rich teas? Â And was it just me or was Robert Carlisles Cockney accent just like Mike the cool persons accent from the young ones?? Â Beats me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 You stated the obvious one Baz; all the tall buildings in London could easily accommodate folk on the upper floors! Why did Carlyle and the girl, jump into the river and battle their way through London (he said to his Dad "If you stay here, you'll die") , his Dad stayed in the dry and got picked up by a chopper. And then having battled their way through the flood, they finished up going back to the Thames Barrier. Just hope folk arn't that thick, if it ever did happen - errm, mind you, they did elect Boris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Predictably Al Bore has blamed AGW for the cyclone that has devestated parts of Burma. This totally ignores the fact that there is no evidence that tropical storms are increasing in intensity or frequency, and that there have been equally severe storms in that area in the past. That part of the world is low lying and susceptible to flooding due to storms. The casualty rate is obviously higher as the poulation is increasing rapidly in that region. There's no show without Punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I too, had to vote no, but this is not what I beleive, I beleive that although industry and man made polution may be a contributing factor to global warming, its not the cause. Â one of the saddest arguments used by those wanting to tax us for our emmisions is saying that anyone who disagrees is a GW denialist, when the truth is we do not deny the earth is warming, we deny taxing us more money will help solve the problem. Â we simply need to reduce our personal energy consumption. and let the government make plans to reduce that consumption under its control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Perhaps the question should be:do you believe that humans should exercise personal responsibility and curtail the greed that is contributing to global warming and the death and destruction of millions of humans and animals every year. Is it? I voted no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 More people and animals get killed by cold weather than by hot weather. The ice age cometh YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 No, they will drown as the ice caps melt and sea levels rise, which is already happening. Legion said: we simply need to reduce our personal energy consumption. and let the government make plans to reduce that consumption under its control. Â This is very true, but it is not simple. If it were the ultimate solution it would have happened by now. The difficulty seems to be that a lot of people 'simply' don't/won't make any effort. They say they 'don't believe it', 'its not my responsibility' 'let the government sort it out' and so on. Hence the need for more desparate measures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Chrissy grow up and stop believing everything you read in the alarmist press! the sea levels are not rising, global temperature is, in fact, falling. The icecaps are certainly not melting, and we are being conned into paying higher taxes by the most successful conmen in history. Oh and by the way, if I were you I would get my central heating system serviced now before the price goes through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Now you're being unkind again, just when I thought we had an agreement Why is what I read, places I visit, photographs I have seen, people I know, less valid than your opinions? You're surely not suggesting you know more than anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 No I'm not suggesting that I know more than anyone else. But I sdo read a lot and have seen the evidence that Global Warming is not the disaster that certain parties are trying to make it out to be. Man made emmissions are not changing the climate and the icecaps are not melting. Climate change exists because change is what climate does, it has never been constant. There is no such thing as an ideal global temperature. Humans live in every area of the globe from the freezing poles to the equator. I believe we are being taken for an expensive ride by the alarmists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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