P J Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 No he is only the governor of the Bank of England and not some no mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 I was refering to Hawkins - keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 He is a scientist not some no mark. Do you really believe you know better about the economy than nobel prize winning economists? You a complete nobody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 here you go, trust these guys to know the economic answer or Observer, hmmm it's a toughy http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/19/eu-referendum-nobel-prize-winning-economists-warn-of-long-term-brexit-damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 That's a belter, YOU calling others "a complete nobody" !!! Let's stick with Hawkings shall we, he's a space scientists, not an economist; who evidently doesn't know where his funding actually comes from. As for the rest, I'll refer you to Baz's film, which you haven't even attempted to dispute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Damn those economists and especially those professors of economics and industry experts in 1999...... if only we'd listened to them back then.... http://www.economist.com/node/199382 and the nobel prize winning economist Sir Christopher Pissarides, changes his mind like the weather. He was instrumental in getting Cyprus to adopt the Euro as its currency back in 2010 but a few short years later decided he'd backed the wrong horse and did a better U Turn than a police driver on an evasive driving course..... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10512678/Dismantle-the-euro-says-Nobel-winning-economist-who-once-backed-currency-union.html and I thought my missus was indecisive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 But they were "the experts" Baz ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Instead of brow beating the sensibly thinking voters with scare tactics,released at appropriate times for best effect, the powers that be ,the government, should be pulling their collective finger out to provide the best strategy to suit the result of the referendum. Even if the result doesn't suit some members of the government they will still be getting paid to represent the wishes of the people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ah thats it, ignore all the advice from the experts in their fields and trust a 7 times failed politician like Farage and his henchmen with economic insight, the has never had to be held to account for any of his madcap theories as he has never been in any position that matters. The advice is there, ignore it at your peril and saying some other people got something wrong way back in time means the present advice must be wrong is quite frankly stupid. Anyhow, when the remain campaign turned things around a sneaked back in front the other day what happened to the pound, the stocks, the FTSE 100? Next time a doctor tells you that you need urgent attention, ignore him and go ask a bloke in the pub what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 and he recently claimed that "Robots, Nuclear war and Aliens" will wipe out humanity in less than 100 years.... No he didn't, but in the big scheme of things this is a very small Trumpeteer lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 In the forty years that Britain has been in the club we have seen the EU evolve from the Common Market ,which was an erstwhile trading partnership, to a politically as yet unfulfilled conglomerate.If this project had worked we would have had by now 28 prosperous nations trading within & without the EU boundaries ,with the world, in their own right. What we have is a stifled economy within the EU with 4 or 5 countries providing the money to keep the other 24 nations afloat. Even the business accounts are dubious. I think the EU 's greatest achievements must be the rise in bureaucracy & the glut of e numbers it has produced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Once again PJ answer use this, why is the economy in such a poor state, why have they not fixed it these experts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Would it be worse without these experts? Would you rather Farage be in charge of crunching the numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 No he didn't, but in the big scheme of things this is a very small Trumpeteer lie. what is this trumpeteer nonsense? Trump is an american and absolutely nothing to do with Europe. The story was tongue in cheek.... I'm sure you took great pleasure in using Google to find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Are you completely clueless PJ ? Parliament (subject to EU permission) will be making the decisions - not Farage or any other individual. It's interesting to learn, that a PM doesn't carry much weight either; as Cameron, who promised to reduce immigration to below 100,000pa (even included it in his manifesto); was told by his "expert" civil servants that it would be impossible to achieve; and now Jeremy Corbyn has given the answer: "there can be no upper limit to immigration from the EU" (free movement rule). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 The EU share of the world GDP is diminishing, by locking us in to it, we are destined to continue to have to borrow money in order to not only pay back the deficits but also in order to pay for a new Latvian motorway or a Slovakian health centre... before all the Eastern block countries joined in, the EU was actually doing quite well on trade, now it is a shadow of its former self and if the remain lot think it is going to last long enough (whether we stay or leave) there is a seat on cloud cuckoo land with their name on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Think the EU is still ahead of Antartica though Baz ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Are you completely clueless PJ ? Parliament (subject to EU permission) will be making the decisions - not Farage or any other individual. It's interesting to learn, that a PM doesn't carry much weight either; as Cameron, who promised to reduce immigration to below 100,000pa (even included it in his manifesto); was told by his "expert" civil servants that it would be impossible to achieve; and now Jeremy Corbyn has given the answer: "there can be no upper limit to immigration from the EU" (free movement rule). Politicians make political decisions based on votes so they often go against expert advice. The civil servants you mention are not Nobel prize winning economists. the experts then? The point I made is we have no idea who will make financial decisions after a Brexit as there will be turmoil, resignations, sackings etc. The Brexiteers are all lobbying for power and position so no not clueless, I leave that to folk like you who vote out of a misguided Nationalist agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Great graph Baz, tell me, does the fall coincide with the rising economies in places like China, India and Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Great graph Baz, tell me, does the fall coincide with the rising economies in places like China, India and Brazil? If it does, maybe we should be voting to join them instead of Croatia, Bulgaria and Romania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 well have you a graph showing the UK share of World GDP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 you see on your graph, just where it starts to dip before Bulgaria join, did anything else happen which may trigger such a fall? Think hard lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 China, India and the USA appear to have remained quite stable throughout with no spikes coinciding with the falls from the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 you see on your graph, just where it starts to dip before Bulgaria join, did anything else happen which may trigger such a fall? Think hard lol LOL.... but it aint going up though because the EU is full of basket case economies keeping it on the slippery slope...roflmao LOL pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 the EU aren't shown on the second graph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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