observer Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Well, as expected, this Government don't want us to have a vote on the Lisbon Treaty (alias the EU Constitution, and certainly not on whether we remain members - presumably because they know how the majority would vote. No prizes for guessing how our two Bliar's Babes voted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I am really begining to hate living in this dictatorship.... roll on 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Hasn't it reached the stage where all those pro EU MPs don't want egg on their faces, if the country said NO to Europe. Common sense plays no part in things, no matter what the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Originally posted by BazJ: I am really begining to hate living in this dictatorship.... roll on 2010 Do you believe that anything will change in 2010 apart from who the public will vote for? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 We may get a vote on the Lisbon Treaty, but which ever way the vote goes we will still stay in the European Union. So nothing will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 You won't be getting a vote "on the Lisbon Treaty"; the Tories won't commit to repealing it, if they get in; and the LibDems are all over the place, couldn't even vote last night - so where do we go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Guess we don't go anywhere.. we just stay where 'they' tell us to stay and do what 'they' tell us were doing Thought the Lib Dems were told to 'abstain' from voting anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 Nick Clegg completely botched this one, and has exposed the LibDems for what they really are: liberal Europhiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 This is what happens when you let kids run things. There's no alternative to experience and maturity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Thought you might be interested in the following from Conservativehome.com which I think is a good summary: "A LibDem Vote is a wasted vote after all One further thought on the Commons votes on the European Treaty last night. For years, the two main parties have argued that a vote for the Liberals is a wasted vote. For years, the Liberals have tried to counter this by arguing that if only they had enough MPs, especially if they held the balance of power, they could make the difference. Well, last night, for the first time since probably the No Confidence Motion in the late Jim Callaghan's Government, they had the chance to make a difference, but chose to sit it out. Hundreds of thousands of voters who actually did elect a LibDem MP in 2005 must today be saying to themselves: "So it was a wasted vote after all."" Calamity Clegg just about sums it up....maybe he should have stayed in Brussels as an MEP....don't have to make decisions there just live the high life...at our expense. [ 07.03.2008, 08:51: Message edited by: Paul Kennedy ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Not sure what the voting figures were? There were some Labour abstentions too - from some make believe lefties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little fella Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 It will not be long before it becomes an offence to say anything bad about Europe. If you are caught you will be sent to the gas chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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