Observer II Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Seems HMG is losing the plot, as well as public support - with a series of U-turns on Covid policies. In there efforts to return to the so-called normal, they are pressing the accelerator only to discover a direct correlation between relaxations in anti-pandemic measures and spikes in incidents of the disease, leading to a lack of public confidence and compliance. Whilst most companies and employees are functioning quite happily by working from home, they threaten folk with job losses if they don't return to the office and save the city economies. With the majority of folk rightly remaining scared of dipping their toes back in the water, and a sizeable minority are diving in with both feet, HMG appears at a loss for leadership and firm direction. The political implications are clearly showing, with a new poll claiming Labour are now neck and neck with the Tories, which suggests the voters are as confused as the Government, as Labour promise nothing but chaos on many fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 A clear case of can't do right for doing wrong. Complaints that the economy is going down the pan if we don't ease lockdown. Complaints about a rise in the infection rate if we do ease lockdown. Experts saying one thing and other experts saying the opposite. If you look at say France who have eased their lockdown and are now seeing a record rise in infections, so much so that they are now putting measures in place to lockdown again. Scotland who have seen 124 new cases in 24 hours. Just two examples out of many probably. There will always be those who either don't care or think they are immortal or invulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 The thing is we aren't seeing spikes in "infections", we're seeing spikes in the number of people being tested positive but not unwell. A spike in infections would be a spike in the number of people in hospital and/or ICU. We are seeing more people with flu than covid19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Not quite Asp; the people largely being infected now, are the young, who tend not to require the ICU; but they keep the virus in circulation and up the "R" factor. The only reason for less deaths at the moment is that most grumpies are in self imposed lock down; and from what I'm seeing, are likely to be for some time, indeed, many won't see the end of it. 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Without EVERYBODY being tested all the time there is no chance that your statement "the people largely being infected now, are the young" can possibly be verified. The same goes for your belief that most grumpies are sat at home, I see loads out and about, cluttering up buses with their shopping trollies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 Perhaps we are now blessed with another virus like the common cold which will be here to stay in mutating forms & for which there will be no cure. Tolerance to it will evolve over a period of time though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 hour ago, asperity said: Without EVERYBODY being tested all the time there is no chance that your statement "the people largely being infected now, are the young" can possibly be verified. The same goes for your belief that most grumpies are sat at home, I see loads out and about, cluttering up buses with their shopping trollies. Of course there will be some grumpies who will dice with death, and some are still finding it, as deaths continue in ICUs. But unless they are the anti-lockdown neanderthals that are crowding the beaches or having covid parties, most seem to be complying with the rules, especially those that were advised to shield. 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 We've reached a stage where deaths from corona are being conflated with cases of corona. Deaths per day from corona are in the low single figures, while deaths from cancer are about 450 per day, more than the number of people in hospital with corona. Time to come out from behind the sofa Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted August 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'll let you go first !😉 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm already out and about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallard12 Posted August 30, 2020 Report Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm glad I wasn't in the same trench with you in ww11 Obs ! Get a grip ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted August 31, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2020 I'm glad too, need to keep clear of bullet magnets ! 😄 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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