Cleopatra Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Algy, Dizzifer, have you seen the new book containing many old photos of Victorian Warrington - Working Lives of Warrington by Janice Hayes? I thought about you two when I read the report, knowing that you would be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 With regard to our industrial heritage, I believe that street names and names of older pubs (and a number of other buildings ) should be sacrosanct and not allowed to change, as they can give a clue to what went on there in the past - often such names are all that remain of former activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 Algy, Dizzifer, have you seen the new book containing many old photos of Victorian Warrington - Working Lives of Warrington by Janice Hayes? I thought about you two when I read the report, knowing that you would be interested. If it's a brand new issue I haven't come across it yet, I shall have to visit the Library/Museum they usually have them on sale, what annoys me about these publications is that the photographs were bequeathed to the townspeople of Warrington but instead are kept under lock and key and not being made available for all to see then they are trickled out in book form over a long period of time with the people of the town having to pay good money to see them, at the end of the day they are photos of our heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 With regard to our industrial heritage, I believe that street names and names of older pubs (and a number of other buildings ) should be sacrosanct and not allowed to change, as they can give a clue to what went on there in the past - often such names are all that remain of former activities. Nick, I am with you all the way on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I would have thought that anything in the library vaults would be catalogued and available for a free view. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 What annoys me about these publications is that the photographs were bequeathed to the townspeople of Warrington but instead are kept under lock and key and not being made available for all to see then they are trickled out in book form over a long period of time with the people of the town having to pay good money to see them, at the end of the day they are photos of our heritage. I completely agree with you Algy which is one of the reasons that I didn't rush out to buy this one when I saw it advertised in the local rag recently. I;ve got quite a few 'Warrington working lives' type books and to dribble more pictures out over many many years is not fair at all !! Like you say ALL these photo's SHOULD be freely accessible and available for people to see if they want to... and the books should simply be an addition of that with written words and additional info. I completely agree with what you said too Nick T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I completely agree with you Algy which is one of the reasons that I didn't rush out to buy this one when I saw it advertised in the local rag recently. I;ve got quite a few 'Warrington working lives' type books and to dribble more pictures out over many many years is not fair at all !! Like you say ALL these photo's SHOULD be freely accessible and available for people to see if they want to... and the books should simply be an addition of that with written words and additional info. I completely agree with what you said too Nick T Also Dizz after seeing some of the 'teasers' sample photos most appear to have been published previously in the "Warrington at Work" published by the library in 2003 although there has to be new material or it would not be worth publishing the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Thanks Algy. I already have that book (it was one of my mums too). Blummin' frustrating though and until the library/museum/local history groups all make a better effort to get more of our bequeathed images online and/or accessible for ALL TO SEE FREE OF CHARGE I will not be buying any more of their books to add to my mums/my collection. I'm 100% sure that is what my mum would be saying now too given her complaints of the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'll try again. Is not all the stuff in the library vaults catalogued and available for inspection, and free of charge? My good lady bought me the 2010 book of Latchford this evening. Seems good. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 I'll try again. Is not all the stuff in the library vaults catalogued and available for inspection, and free of charge? My good lady bought me the 2010 book of Latchford this evening. Seems good. Happy days Harry, good point when I have time away from uploading photos to here (my fault as I did offer) I must just go down and test that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'll try again. Is not all the stuff in the library vaults catalogued and available for inspection, and free of charge? My good lady bought me the 2010 book of Latchford this evening. Seems good. Happy days I would imagine (or hope) they are catalogued Harry but my own point is they should be accessible for easier browsing at leisure so you can digest rather than for them to be locked in a vault and only brought out when specifically requested by someone and viewable under restriction. I might ask next time I find time to go into the Warrington Library though but having been to Chester Archives to view things in the past if it's anything like that then, as interesting as it is, it's a complete pain in the <you know where> You have to book in advance, then fill in slips saying specifically what you want to look at. You view those items, hand them back, and then your next 'choice' is brought out. Want to cross match... hard luck as it's gone and you then have to hand the other stuff back and get the other out again, and so an and so forth. You also are time limited so finish up reading fast, making hurried notes, missing things and/or just trying to 'remember'. Also you fill out your slip only to find that some things have to be ordered as they are stored in the salt mines so you have to go back again to see those. All of the things I was searching for related to my immediate LOCAL AREA and it's history and it really started to pee me off So in short, my view is that things relating to our LOCAL HISTORY should be held LOCALLY and FREELY ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL LOCALLY especially if they have been BEQUEATHED to OUR library and museum for us to take pleasure out of. More people might start taking an interest in it too if it was. Yes... I'm ranting again... sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I really don't know but think you are asking far too much for thousands and thousands of records gathered over a very long period of time, to be readily available. Each and everyone will be important to someone, as are my police and war-time recollections gathering dust therein. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Harry, have you ever thought of writing a book about your policeman days? The things you post here about them are ever so interesting. I'm sure it will be a popular read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Cleo, Thank you. My notes are in a binder, a form of book already. I always quote "one man's nostalgia is another man's boredom". People often say the same about publishing my poems - in my opinion their worth is very doubtful. However I could afford it, so perhaps 'one day'. Ecclesiastes "vanity, vanity, all is vanity~" Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 I really don't know but think you are asking far too much for thousands and thousands of records gathered over a very long period of time, to be readily available. Each and everyone will be important to someone, as are my police and war-time recollections gathering dust therein. Happy days Why is it asking too much for more to be made available Harry ? At present there are a total of 139 images available on the museums didital image project as I just looked. That equates to 17 per year if I want to be picky. Algy has scanned and uploaded more than that on here in the past few days along with interesting information. Maybe he could offer his services to them and they could give him a job Their website says the Digital Image Project began in 2003 with the aim of making Warrington Library, Museums and Archives collections accessible online and was started with grant aid from the North West Libraries, Archives and Museums Council. It also says " The aim behind this project is to allow everyone to browse at will through our collections without any damage occurring to the originals. They also say "Researchers attached to museums and higher education institutions who need to see our original photographs are welcome to make appointments." ... so I guess you can at least see the origs if you fall into that category. I don't do you ? And finally they also say "These web pages, and more like them, will grow as time passes. However the speed at which we can achieve this depends on funding. So please be patient - we want more resources online as much as you do. Help us achieve this by sending us your feedback about this site." SO MAYBE WE NEED TO LEAVE FEEDBACK SO THEY KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THEM AND THEY CAN APPLY FOR AND HOPEFULLY GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THEY NEED ! To leave feedback go here http://www.1museumstreet.co.uk/wdia/about.htm and click the feedback link and to view their current collection go here http://www.1museumstreet.co.uk/wdia/contents.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thanks for the job offer Dizz, but no thanks!. Regarding resources there innumerable university students that require part time work during their annual break or are looking for work experience, these youngsters could be given the task of cataloguing slides/photos etc and scanning and uploading to the libraries own website for the enjoyment and education of anyone that is interested in Warrington's past history, regarding the downloading of the images the library could block that facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Cleo, Thank you. My notes are in a binder, a form of book already. I always quote "one man's nostalgia is another man's boredom". People often say the same about publishing my poems - in my opinion their worth is very doubtful. However I could afford it, so perhaps 'one day'. Ecclesiastes "vanity, vanity, all is vanity~" Happy days Do not hide your talent under a bushel. Mathew 5:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 12, 2012 Report Share Posted January 12, 2012 Thanks for the job offer Dizz, but no thanks!. If you don't want it I'll have it then Oooh I'd be in my element doing that all day especially if there were any really creased and faded ones that needed fixing. Absolute bliss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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