observer Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 - got a "right" to go to University? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 No, because most are dumbos who think they are clever because they have a bit of paper with a few "a"s on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 The clever ones have, like my daughter for instance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Have what? The right to waste their time getting pissed for 4 years to come out with a degree in plane spotting? Instead of buggering about at uni for 4 years they should be doing community work and getting proper work/life experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 If they scrapped all the mickey mouse degrees, maybe there may be enough places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 got a "right" to go to University? Ah, it's another one of those wibbly times of year for poor ol' obs, who thinks that around these parts? Baz - inverse snobbery is no better than the regular kind. Oh, and what's a "mickey mouse degree" (I'll note here that you should use upper case for the first letter of proper nouns - standards, eh?)? Please to list all Mickey Mouse degrees here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Please to list all Mickey Mouse degrees here. Well here's a few to kick off the list: Hairdressing-salon management ? University of Derby Fashion-and-lifestyle products ? Southampton Solent University Watersports science and development ? University of Portsmouth Sports-surfaces management ? Glyndwr University Contemporary circus and physical performance ? Bath Spa University Equestrian psychology ? Glyndwr University Cruise management ? University of Plymouth Surf science and technology ? University of Plymouth Pop-music performance ? University of East London Sexual-health studies ? University of Central Lancashire But if you want a real Mickey Mouse degree you have to go to America; where Disney offer university scholarships! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 had a quick trawl through the university websites and the only one that may touch on Mickey Mouse would be the film with television studies at Warwick university. reading the modules for the course it would be possible to get a degree by studying Mickey Mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Heh, nice one Sid. Hmm, granted, they're not academic, but if those courses exist at all*, they're all foundation degrees**, which are supposed to be vocational. Believe it or not, there are people working in jobs like these, and for some of them you even have to have qualifications. Didn't lift that list from somewhere like The Daily Wail, did you? *They don't all exist. **There's only the equestrian psychology degree which is available as a one year top-up to a full degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Fug, you asked for a list of university "courses" which the average person would see or could be Interpreted as "Mickey Mouse Courses" I supplied the list based on what you asked.... they do all exist if you would care to check.... Hairdressing-salon management ? University of Derby http://www.derby.ac.uk/hairdressing-and-salon-management-fda-buxton Fashion-and-lifestyle products ? Southampton Solent University http://www.ceebd.co.uk/ceeed/un/uk/uksi0042.htm Watersports science and development ? University of Portsmouth http://uws.port.ac.uk/unitwebsearch/displayCourseDetails.do;jsessionid=99D3AEAA517755EE57CF99B40896DDE2?objectId=67983520&academicSession=2009 Sports-surfaces management ? Glyndwr University http://careersadvice-findacourse1.direct.gov.uk/pls/hot_ca/aff_course_details.page_pls_course_details?x=75629785206&y=0&w=34054123&s=182343312&p=13&location_id=&town_city=&qualification=&a=260405&learneraccount=N&college_name=&study_mode=&phrase_search= Contemporary circus and physical performance ? Bath Spa University http://www.bathspa.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/contemporary-circus-and-physical-performance-fd.asp Equestrian psychology ? Glyndwr University http://www.glyndwr.ac.uk/en/Undergraduatecourses/EquestrianPsychology/ Cruise management ? University of Plymouth http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/3697/BSc+(Hons)+Cruise+Management Surf science and technology ? University of Plymouth http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/courses/undergraduate/1645/BSc+(Hons)+Surf+Science+and+Technology Pop-music performance ? University of East London http://www.uel.ac.uk/programmes/hss/undergraduate/popularmusic.htm Sexual-health studies ? University of Central Lancashire http://www.findamasters.com/search/showcourse.asp?cour_id=13859 Maybe they could lead to some jobs, but maybe not! but as far as I can see, they are all genuine courses and not just made up ones by the Times or Mail. Of course one of the star attractions is the surfing degree/course and its highlights are listed as being: ?A globally unique qualification ?Opportunities to focus on particular areas of interest as the course progresses ?Excellent location and staff expertise Globally unique says it all really! Please to list all apologies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Brilliant Baz! NuLab, in their middle class obsession with "going to University", not only dumbed down the education examination system to allow it (stll failing in the case of 50% of kids), but then tried to elevate mickey mouse subjects to encompass such attendance. I've no probs with vocational courses, the more the better, but they are the stuff of Colleges and work based courses NOT "Universities" - Warrington is a classic example of this progression: we used to have a "College" which then aspired to become a "University", so it joined the University of Chester - smoke and mirrors. Yes, kids do have a right to an equal opportunity to enter University, based on ability to pass the relevent exams rather than on the basis of affordabilty. Government should be in a position to estimate the number of Doctors, Engineers, Scientists, Lawyers etc that the economy requires, and should provide for their production. Lower down the ladder of esteem, but just as vital, is the production of electricians, plumbers, bricklayers etc - which we seem to be failing at producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 my son has just secured his place at Leeds university with A*s He is studying aeronautics & aerospace engineering and he has worked his backside off since the age of 13 to achieve his results as he has always wanted to be a commercial pilot. I'm proud of the hardwork he has put in and the determination to succeed so lets not knock all the youth of today please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Indy Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 When he gets his pilots license, you can film Warburton from the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 he has flown RAF Grob Tutor planes and Cessna's so far ..... he has also flown across the country in military aircraft as an air cadet .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Ah, I see the problem now Baz, this article is a little dated: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/article6829650.ece Nope, obs definitely used the phrase "mickey mouse degrees" and if you don't know the difference between foundation degrees and BAs/BScs etc, you need to hone your academic snobbery a little. So, I'll ignore the foundations. The fashion and lifestyle products is not running this year, but what's wrong with product design anyway? Watersports science and development is another one not running this year. Sports surfaces management is not running. Already mentioned the horse whisperer course, but what on earth is wrong with studying cruise management or music performance? And that sexual health course is a post grad, you may even be able to get on to it with a Mickey Mouse degree! So, don't fall for all the media hype folks. And, you're better of using the UCAS site for all your up-to-date degree information needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 The young people who have achieved passes in their A levels are the ones who've been working at school and studying at home, not the wasters who've been skiving off and hanging around the streets being a nuisance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Good point asperity, and well done to every one who passed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Think some folk need to recognise that criticism of "the system" isn't criticism of our young folk, who've been duped into the idea that going to Uni is everything - which of course, doesn't say much for those that don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Didn't seem to bother Churchill and Branson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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