observer Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Did I hear this correctly? The new "swine flu" hotlines are to be manned by immigrants with a poor command of the English language? Whoever thought this one up should be publicly flogged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 For one hopful minute I thought this was one of your odd little jokes and jibes aimed at 'people' in charge Obs... I appologise as I've read it for myself now I rather stupidly presumed that the hotline would be manned by fully trained medical professionals. .....with as little as 5 hours training not to mention the lackof English.... HOW will they understand the training in the first place never mind diagnose an illness and offer the correct advice. God help us all is what I say and no wonder Scotland and Wales are opting out of the hotline service and making their OWN contingency plans. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/115512/Migrants-man-swine-flu-helpline. Anyway now that it's been brought to my attention I WILL still call my GP's surgery or local hospital if the need ever arises... Absolutely RIDICULOUS !!!!! I was going to say that it would be benefitial to future immigrants if many Brits 'popped their clogs' as it would make more space for even more of them to come over in the long run... but of course that would have been really nasty of me so I changed my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I was going to say that it would be benefitial to future immigrants if many Brits 'popped their clogs' as it would make more space for even more of them to come over in the long run... but of course that would have been really nasty of me so I changed my mind Good job you didn't then Dis.... otherwise Sgt Kije and the other toga wearing liberals would have branded you a vile racist!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 quote="Baz"]Good job you didn't then Dis.... otherwise Sgt Kije and the other toga wearing liberals would have branded you a vile racist!! You can always rely on Baz to be a dipstick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Another question about the NHS call centres.... Will the call operators have direct access to all our medical records? If you go to your GP he/she can look at your past medical history. Some people may NOT be able to take 'tamiflu' or similar due to other medical conditions or medications being taken. Will the call operators take that into account and will the caller remember to tell them everything if they are feeling really unwell and worried? That aside....apparently some doctors are saying that people will abuse the call centre system just to obtain 'tamiflu' medication before it runs out incase they ever DO need it. Doesn't take a genius to describe the symptoms to obtain a voucher for medication and as GP's are refusing to see or visit suspected carriers... no-one would know:? We could see the current stockpile of medication running out fast if it prescribed and obtained by those who don't actually need it : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Another question about the NHS call centres.... Will the call operators have direct access to all our medical records? If you go to your GP he/she can look at your past medical history. Some people may NOT be able to take 'tamiflu' or similar due to other medical conditions or medications being taken. Will the call operators take that into account and will the caller remember to tell them everything if they are feeling really unwell and worried? That aside....apparently some doctors are saying that people will abuse the call centre system just to obtain 'tamiflu' medication before it runs out incase they ever DO need it. Doesn't take a genius to describe the symptoms to obtain a voucher for medication and as GP's are refusing to see or visit suspected carriers... no-one would know:? We could see the current stockpile of medication running out fast if it prescribed and obtained by those who don't actually need it : They will not have any access to any medical history files. They have been on a 6 hour training course and that is it. Still reckon your best bet is to go and see your GP. Make them earn that ?120,000 a year they are on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 You can always rely on Baz to be a dipstick Why a dipstick? You have implied that people on here are racists for saying a lot less. I was merely pointing out what I believe to be the case. I know you would like to give it all up Sgt, but this is still a free country where free speech is a right (unless of course we upset you toga wearers of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 How has the human race survived so long?????? I despair!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Couple of Paracetamol, go to bed, lots of liquids, and ISOLATE yourself - you'll either get better or die. DON'T go round sharing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Is that the Government directive or just common sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 For once, this Government seems to have applied "common sense" to an issue - it's just that most of the public don't have it! However; watched a girl on TV News: who "thought" she had flu symtoms, although she admitted, it could have just been a bad cold. So, she rings up the help line, and next thing, she's being interviewed whilst picking up her Tamiflu. Errm, whether she had a cold or swine-flu (both are contagious); why was she wondering around other folk at all? The idea is: ISOLATE yourself, and get "a friend" to bring all necessary supplies to your door-step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 An item in the Express today; a woman who had been diagnosed with Swine Flu last week described her symptoms from start to finish. Well, I'm sorry but she just had a nasty cold. She said her sinuses were blocked, her chest hurt and she had a bad cough, her head ached, then her temperature went up to 38.4 and she had to go to bed for 2 days. Yes, that sounds like the last bad cold I had - except I couldn't go to bed for 2 days. Having had the severe puts-you-on-your-back-for-a-week sort, in the past, I don't call a heavy cold "flu" but I think half the population does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 And apparently not just the male half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Still reckon your best bet is to go and see your GP. Make them earn that ?120,000 a year they are on Now that is a good comment, and I completely agree, You can do it when you take your time and stop trying to jibe all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I completely agree with you Kate... sounds more like a bad cold which lets face it we all get from time to time. Real Flu knocks a person for six and certainly wont be better in 2 days. Don't think I've ever had flu but I have had my fair share of really bad colds but I just get on with it cos I have to If I had told an unqualified call centre operative my symptoms over the past gew weeks they would probably have give me Tamiflu. I go very hot (although I'm not sure if I have a temperature as I don't have a thermometer) I have a headache My sinuses are sore and left side seem blocked I have a cough which is both tickly in the day and chesty at night. I'm sneezing a lot My nose constantly runs I'm tired and lethargic all the time I can't sleep I can't breath very well and am very chesty and wheezy at times ........... I have my usual bad case of June/July Hayfever !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I believe Tamiflu will reduce the length of a dose of flu by 24 hours, but only if taken within 48 hours of the symptoms appearing. Going to see the doctor will not reduce the suffering, just waste his time and increase the risk of your giving the flu to other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 What do you do on a ship if someone contracts it Asp ? Must be hard to quarantine them as don't ships have air conditioning and the likes? I guess you could always dangle them overboard or put them in a life raft and tow them behind until they are feeling better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 A bug like the flu goes round a ship like wild fire. Loads of Lemsip, Paracetomol, sleep when you can and work through it. Been there, done that, got the t shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 But will people get over it as quickly if they think they have piggy flu May be a psycological issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I've heard that Swine Flu has been cross contaminated by a strain of Avian Flu. Doctors believe that a vaccine will be available when pigs can fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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observer Posted July 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Do you still have to fly a yellow flag, and stand off-shore Asp?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 A bug like the flu goes round a ship like wild fire. Loads of Lemsip, Paracetomol, sleep when you can and work through it. Been there, done that, got the t shirt. What a hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 It's all very well for call centre operators to diagnose flu from symptoms such as high temperature, tummy ache, headache and dry cough. In the meantime, though, other illnesses continue as normal. Children still get meningitis, and may well present with high temperatures, tummy ache, headaches and a dry cough. Children still get bacterial pneumonia and may well present with high temperatures, tummy ache, headaches and a dry cough. Children still get pyelonephritis (kidney infections) and may well present with high temperatures, tummy ache, headaches and a dry cough. Children still get acute appendicitis and may well present with high temperatures, tummy ache, headaches and a dry cough. Children still get acute leukaemia and may well present with high temperatures, tummy ache, headaches and a dry cough. Presented with these symptoms you may as well make your own diagnosis, because you could be just as right, or wrong, as the layman on the other end of the phone. I believe many doctors are unconvinced by the claims for Tamiflu and are concerned by the side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 According to the TV News: tests are showing, only around 10% of those claiming the Tamiflu, actually have the "swineflu virus" - seems we're turning into a Nation of hypocondriacs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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